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If you're a power user, maybe. But regular consumers, probably not. My Mac mini is still base intel from 2020 refresh and is perfect on Sonoma.

It will probably be M5 or so by the time I need to upgrade. It might even outlive my M2 MacBook Air
I'm still hanging with my specced up 2019 16' 2.4 MBP. It still has power to spare, rarely leaves the house and battery is good enough when it does. Native Windows support I need occasionally is great. I love it.
 
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Did you just say keyboard cover. Man. So disappointed. Enjoy though. My apple devices go naked. 15 pro max sadly already has a small scuff on the casing edge. Whatever.
I did. I have a thin cover over the keys so they don't get all shiny and then the lettering starts to come off. It doesn't bother me tying at all. If I ever pass on any of my Macs to family, I want them to look good.
 
Saw the black one today in the store looks sleek. Just wonder about scrapes? To me the silver looks lighter than normal. Anyone else notice this?
 
Anyone who wants an MBP should just get an M1 Pro Unless you like to flex your Macbooks, it's like $1.0k at this point.
Think I might try to find one. It would still be a massive upgrade from the 2015 13” MBP 2.9 dual-core i5 I have.
 

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Saw the black one today in the store looks sleek. Just wonder about scrapes? To me the silver looks lighter than normal. Anyone else notice this?
I oddly was thinking the same thing when I scoped them out in-store today too. Thought it may just be my eyes playing tricks on me since it was next to the darker space black model lol 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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Hmm. Work is refreshing my laptop so I'm wondering if a 32GB M1 Max will feel more performant than the base (18GB) M3 Pro.... the Geekbench results don't seem to suggest it will.
 
Is a 6% generation on generation Multicore performance increase “scary stagnation”?

Should we buy the 16” MBP M3Pro for $4,299 AUD or the M2Pro refurb for $3,399 AUD.

Hmm. 26% price rise. 6% performance increase. :/

Benchmarks are literally useless. Go watch Luke Miani’s video where he does an actual real world render in Blender and sees a 50% increase.
 
I think a "hands on" video with the M3 Pro should be more than just showing benchmark scores.
Yep. Benchmarks are useless and are almost never indicative of real world performance. I’ll never understand why people use them.

I posted this above but Luke Miani did a video and although he starts with benchmarks, his real world test shows a 50% increase in speed in the software he’s testing.
 
Not at all clear why some ‘Genius’ decided to cripple the M3 pro by limiting its performance cores. Swing 2 more cores to performance and the chip would be superior to the M2 pro and drive some upgrade purchases.

Very odd.
 
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I think the upgrade proposition is best for those at the stage of upgrading an intel MacBook from 5 years ago.


Just in terms of performance, it's hard to justify getting this over an M2 for an extra $400. However, I'd like to know:

1) SSD. which versions use single module vs two modules. (did they fix the SSD issue from M2?)
2) Battery life. has this improved at all over M2?
3) is the screen improvement even perceptible?
I just got my M3 Pro 14 and haven’t finished setting it up yet so I can’t speak to the battery life but the screen is noticeably brighter to me than my 14 inch M1 Pro.

The speakers don’t seem as good as the M1 Pro to me.

I’m very interested in the battery life. I don’t use a lot of cpu/gpu other than BG3 so I don’t care about the Max for another $800 minimum. I’ll save that and put it toward a future upgrade.

I imagine the battery life will be better than the M2 Pro by a noticeable margin.
 
Is a 6% generation on generation Multicore performance increase “scary stagnation”?

Should we buy the 16” MBP M3Pro for $4,299 AUD or the M2Pro refurb for $3,399 AUD.

Hmm. 26% price rise. 6% performance increase. :/

I’d take that Geekbench multi score and ignore it. Jump on to todays actual tests on even an 11 core binned M3 pro and you’ll see 10-17% on many real world tests like Cinebench, I think that’s was Greg’s Gadgets that did that one.
 
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It's black

Just buy it.

Been waiting for a black Macbook Pro ever since ... IDK the better part of 20 years now!
 
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I just got my M3 Pro 14 and haven’t finished setting it up yet so I can’t speak to the battery life but the screen is noticeably brighter to me than my 14 inch M1 Pro.

The speakers don’t seem as good as the M1 Pro to me.

I’m very interested in the battery life. I don’t use a lot of cpu/gpu other than BG3 so I don’t care about the Max for another $800 minimum. I’ll save that and put it toward a future upgrade.

I imagine the battery life will be better than the M2 Pro by a noticeable margin.
I am the same as you - battery is more important to me than CPU speed.

I can make use of as many CPU cores as are available though - I need them all and more.

Why do you think the battery life is better?

I am waiting for the m3 pro vs max comparison - Apple claims these have the same runtime, but given that the max is 2x the size, I find that hard to believe. Max must use more battery, no?

I've already decided I will upgrade from my M1 Pro 16" - even though that thing is a workhorse, and I have no complaints, battery life is the one thing that I wish was better. I get 5-6 hours realistically. I always run screen at full brightness and my workflow involves CPU load so I think that's why - I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with my machine. It works as it should.

For comparison my friend has a M2 Macbook Pro 13 which is an outlier - all day 10 - 12 hour battery is no problem for that computer.
 
The base M3 MBP doesn’t even come in space black, so we can 😽 our a$$ for MBA space black.
Didn’t even noticed that to start with. MBA might come in space red 😺😻
 
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I think the upgrade proposition is best for those at the stage of upgrading an intel MacBook from 5 years ago.
If they have an I9, it still makes not a lot of sense. M3 is just twice that fast (single- and multicore).
 
I have a hard time imagining the GPU isn’t more than 1.6% better with all the changes they made, even at the loss of one core. I’d like to see some more real-world graphics tests.
The changes they made to the GPU are for stuff that the benchmark does not check.

But really does it matter? Very few people will do more than just run a web browser. A Chromebook is enough for 90% of the population.
 
I just got my M3 Pro 14 and haven’t finished setting it up yet so I can’t speak to the battery life but the screen is noticeably brighter to me than my 14 inch M1 Pro.

The speakers don’t seem as good as the M1 Pro to me.

I’m very interested in the battery life. I don’t use a lot of cpu/gpu other than BG3 so I don’t care about the Max for another $800 minimum. I’ll save that and put it toward a future upgrade.

I imagine the battery life will be better than the M2 Pro by a noticeable margin.
How does BG3 run ?
 
If they have an I9, it still makes not a lot of sense. M3 is just twice that fast (single- and multicore).
I personally could not go back to a laptop that sounds like a hair dryer when you’re using it, the silence alone to me is a major feature. Being able to actually use it as a laptop for more than an hour is another feature. No, not watching a movie…

The difference from my 27 inch iMac with an i9 that was my daily to just my M1 Mac Mini opened my eyes to what’s possible.
 
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