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Jobs had a really unique relationship with CooK. I think his decision to promote him to CEO is exactly how he intended it and Apples success is clearly a representation of his accomplishments with Apple since 2011.
I suppose I'm more waxing nostalgia than anything. I just miss his stage presence/keynotes. On any given day I'll go to https://www.youtube.com/user/EverySteveJobsVideo and just binge watch for hours. It was his showmanship that made me want the iPod and beg for an '07 MBP for Christmas (which btw still runs like a champ even with a few keys missing) and made me get out of the nursing home I was in in 2013 and get the MBA. I'm not ancient btw, I just had a ton of medical problems in 13 and required 24-7 care for 4 months lol.

As much as I give the guy grief, I'll give credit to Cook, he has indeed made the company a ton of money. I'm not too keen on a few things but as you said he's brought the company to new heights and there's something to be said for that.
 
Happy Birthday. Such a tragedy he is not around.
Steve Jobs would most likely been very successful but him (and us) are very fortunate he met WOZ.
 
So you used the Apple 2 (if that's even true), great. That doesn't make you any more competent than a guy that has been using Apple products for just 1 month.

USB-C is great, if you can't see the advantages I question your power of judgement.

Many times, I don't respond to posts like this, but you have underestimated many of the Apple users here.

I actually still have my Apple IIe. Many of us here cut our teeth on early Apple products and worked our way through Systems 7, 8 & 9, before OS X was introduced.
No offense to those that have come over recently, but those of us that have been using Apple for several decades will certainly be more well versed in the nuances that we are presented with, and more likely to tolerate some shortcomings that occur. And yes, they did occur under SJ's watch. IMHO, issues have increased under the current command (there are enough threads about this, so no need to elaborate here).

It is a divided camp on the changes that have occurred since Steve left us. I, myself, can't imagine having to spend extra $$ on dongles when prior iterations of Mac products were geared towards pro and prosumer users and I would think that some didn't mind another 8 ounces of weight to have the ports some of us needed on a laptop.

Perhaps you shouldn't be so quick to judge those that do have the experience of more than 1 month. Once again, no offense to those that have just joined the fold....Welcome!

We celebrate Steve's life & time. Thanks MR for being here.
 
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"As current Apple CEO Tim Cook often says, Steve Jobs' DNA -- his taste, his thinking, his unwavering perfectionism, his dedication to hard work, and his lust for innovation -- will "always be the foundation of Apple.""

If only Tim practiced what he preaches.
 
If Steve was alive today he would be on the cutting edge of using blockchain to make a better Apple. Instead, Cook has retreated into the sound closet to make something really not that special. He also insists on keeping most parts of the flawed X design even when it has been pointed out that Jobs would never have approved of his poor choices.
 
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iOS 5 (under Jobs) was one of the worst updates at first. He was a perfectionist but (naiveness aside) nothing can be perfect..

Steve had a much better sense of the market and what people want and his delivery in the keynotes were incredible (iPod, iPhone, iPad, iMac, Macbook). I feel like the new Apple is trying a bunch of stuff most people really don't want and they see what catches on anyways (Homepod, Apple TV, Touchbar) without fully investing in it and making it great. Steve also fixed most things quickly when they went wrong which was somewhat rare.
 
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Steve Jobs was a remarkable visionary.

It would appear that one of his most enduring talents was his “reality distortion field,” which appears, all these years later, to still be in full force for some of the commenters here. Jobs’ contributions to Apple were undeniably and unimpeachably significant. After his exile, he came back to Apple, turned the company around and pointed it in its current direction. He ushered in iMac, MacBook (Pro), iPod, iPhone, iPad and more. Nonetheless, the reality distortion field has some people (literally) thinking he single-handedly created these things from nothing, willing them into existence, one right after the other, each imbued with infallible perfection.

Jobs was a perfectionist, no doubt, but the devices created under his leadership were not perfect, and were not fashioned from one of his own ribs, brought into existence by his own hands. He led teams of engineers, programmers and others to create new devices that were mostly recombinations of existing objects, made more user-friendly, intuitive and reliable. After releasing a new device, it was followed by incremental improvements. “One more thing” was an add-on or update far more often than it was a new device or category killer. The iPhone wasn’t really all that until its third iteration. The first two versions were incomplete proofs of concept. The introduction of the App Store revolutionized the software industry, providing a platform for wide distribution of applications, but at a low price, and with no boxes, physical media, or instruction books. Brilliant, right? We forget that even this paradigm shift began not so much with a bang, but a toot, as some of the most popular early apps did nothing more than play fart noises.

So guess what, kids? Steve Jobs was brilliant, but not infallible. He was a perfectionist but never created a perfect device. He led innovation by reformulating and enhancing existing categories, almost never was “first,” and spent far more time introducing incremental improvements than he did creating new category-killers. He also hand-picked Tim Cook to take over while he was ill and after he was gone. And Tim Cook has actually done a remarkable job of growing the company while holding fast to the model Jobs created. Apple still designs hardware and software together in a walled garden, is rarely “first,” but continues to reformulate existing ideas into category killers that take time to grow into a full vision of what they can be. They also spend far more time making incremental improvements than they do creating new category-killers, but if you compare the current model of most devices to their versions of just five years ago, the improvements are remarkable.

Oh, and one more thing. Releasing MacBook Pro exclusively with USB-C/Thunderbolt is totally a Steve Jobs move. It’s clean, simple, elegant, recombines existing I/O into something technologically superior, and it’s looking unsentimentally and unapologetically forward, never back. What could be more Steve Jobs than that?
 
Steve Jobs died far too young of an age. Imagine what he would have done with another 10 years or so? What kind of things do you think he would have come up with?

When SJ died I worried that Apple would slowly fall apart but I kept on trucking with the best of hopes and waited years for Apple to turn themselves around.

Instead they neglected product lines for years (mac pro, mac mini), and flogged a MBP with an inherently defective keyboard which they have still yet to fix. The iPhones haven't really changed either - each year it's a processor, camera, and maybe some sort of charging port upgrade. MacOS had so little innovation that they just named it after the previous OS (High Sierra) which introduced more bugs than features.

Now I'm here typing this on my Dell XPS and shopping for more Dell products and accessories. I'm happy with my purchase, but it just doesn't seem right. I just couldn't wait anymore.

Apple was Steve's company and he is responsible for it's success. Apple says they embody everything Steve believed in, but it's just not the same.
 
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He also personally selected John Scully and we all know how that went....

Scully never lasted as long as Cook, nor increased revenues, or helped Apple being liked in any social circle on any scale in any country ;)

Comparison pretty much ended at selection.
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Steve Jobs died far too young of an age. Imagine what he would have done with another 10 years or so? What kind of things do you think he would have come up with?

When SJ died I worried that Apple would slowly fall apart but I kept on trucking with the best of hopes and waited years for Apple to turn themselves around.

Instead they neglected product lines for years (mac pro, mac mini), and flogged a MBP with an inherently defective keyboard which they have still yet to fix. The iPhones haven't really changed either - each year it's a processor, camera, and maybe some sort of charging port upgrade. MacOS had so little innovation that they just named it after the previous OS (High Sierra) which introduced more bugs than features.

Now I'm here typing this on my Dell XPS and shopping for more Dell products and accessories. I'm happy with my purchase, but it just doesn't seem right. I just couldn't wait anymore.

Apple was Steve's company and he is responsible for it's success. Apple says they embody everything Steve believed in, but it's just not the same.

Man ... OSX has been suffering since they renamed it MacOS (completely retarded in my book; far too similar to RIM renaming their company BlackBerry). Actually it's been suffering major innovated features and updates that all user categories could benefit from since Federighi got directive control after both Avi Tevanian and Bertrand Serlet!! The past 3-4yrs all we're getting is presentations and the sweet candy like consumer features ... which are nice ... but the core system hasn't really been overhauled or upgraded beyond APFS.
 
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Many times, I don't respond to posts like this, but you have underestimated many of the Apple users here.

I actually still have my Apple IIe. Many of us here cut our teeth on early Apple products and worked our way through Systems 7, 8 & 9, before OS X was introduced.
No offense to those that have come over recently, but those of us that have been using Apple for several decades will certainly be more well versed in the nuances that we are presented with, and more likely to tolerate some shortcomings that occur. And yes, they did occur under SJ's watch. IMHO, issues have increased under the current command (there are enough threads about this, so no need to elaborate here).

It is a divided camp on the changes that have occurred since Steve left us. I, myself, can't imagine having to spend extra $$ on dongles when prior iterations of Mac products were geared towards pro and prosumer users and I would think that some didn't mind another 8 ounces of weight to have the ports some of us needed on a laptop.

Perhaps you shouldn't be so quick to judge those that do have the experience of more than 1 month. Once again, no offense to those that have just joined the fold....Welcome!

We celebrate Steve's life & time. Thanks MR for being here.
You've hit the nail on the head. Some of those new to Apple can pour over macOS or iOS and products such as the HomePod but have no idea what products such as the Apple IIe are.
 
Happy Birthday Steve Jobs. Apple is entirely without direction and focus now you have passed.

Steve Jobs was a respectable man who drove Apple with pride and ambition ever seeking innovation and changed the way in which we use computers and Hand Held devices in the modern day. How happy he would have been to see Microsoft fail so dismally in the mobile market on the back of Ballmer laughing at the iPhone.

How happy he would have been to see all the mainstream manufacturers attempting to copy the MacBook Air over the years without success.

Would he have crippled the Mac mini in 2014 NO

Would he have have crippled the MacBook Pro with USB-C NO

Would he have multiple new projects in the pipeline YES

Would he have allowed the Mac mini to go four years without a refresh NO

Would he have had consideration for the Apple consumer YES


.....the list is endless without his focus and direction.
Maybe he would and maybe he wouldn't have done those things, but one thing is for sure—he would have convinced us that whatever he did do was brilliant and the best decision out there. I do miss that reality distortion field. Happy birthday.
 
I feel like an eejit now for all the bitching about him back in the day. I was young and stupid and all I saw was the high price-tag. He was in no way perfect, but a hard to replicate visionary for sure. He had raw passion, something that Tim Cook seems to lack entirely. Steve was the biggest, most hardcore fan of Apple, while Cook... he seems to just care about numbers, and piggybacks on Steve's achievements while running both iOS and Mac OSX into the ground. All the Apple events Tim delivered were the most dull things I have ever had to watch. Almost painful. I know the two of them were friends and all, but I don't believe Steve would be impressed today with Tim's performance regardless of numbers. The problem with numbers is that every new Apple customer has the potential of becoming an angry customer, and when that number grows, it can hurt a company quite badly.
 
Tim Cook can do a better job of honoring Jobs by stopping the release of poor quality software and questionable hardware quality the way Tim has for the past year.
 
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"The thing that bound us together at Apple was the ability to make things that were going to change the world." We are forever bound to that goal -- and to you, Steve.

Apple user since 1984.
While that is nice sentiment, I don't see any proof of the " things that were going to change the world " in apples repertoire these days!

It's more like, lets see what others do, copy them and try and make it better with a bigger price tag.
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It's unfortunate that Tim Cook did not follow his footsteps.
A shame this post got so much rep. It’s completely false.

Cook has done a fantastic job growing the company and taking iPhone to the next level. Jobs resisted a large screen. Apple ships 3X as many iPhones today as the best Jobs year.

Cook, don’t forget, was hand picked by Jobs himself. Cook is a supply chain genius.
 
I feel like an eejit now for all the bitching about him back in the day. I was young and stupid and all I saw was the high price-tag. He was in no way perfect, but a hard to replicate visionary for sure. He had raw passion, something that Tim Cook seems to lack entirely. Steve was the biggest, most hardcore fan of Apple, while Cook... he seems to just care about numbers, and piggybacks on Steve's achievements while running both iOS and Mac OSX into the ground. All the Apple events Tim delivered were the most dull things I have ever had to watch. Almost painful. I know the two of them were friends and all, but I don't believe Steve would be impressed today with Tim's performance regardless of numbers. The problem with numbers is that every new Apple customer has the potential of becoming an angry customer, and when that number grows, it can hurt a company quite badly.

Perhaps there’s a lesson here. It’s probably not that Steve was retrospectively great. Maybe it’s that rose colored glasses don’t correct for presbiopia.
 
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