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More Pi-Position trivia:

* The smallest integer that maps to a 4-digit number is
103 -> 3486​
which means that the sequence 1 0 3 does not occur for more than 3000 digits into pi. But it is quickly reined back in:
103 -> 3486 -> 265 -> 6 -> 7 -> 13 -> 110 -> 174 -> 155 -> 314 -> 0​
* I found another loop, starting from 40. It goes from 2-digit numbers to 3-digit numbers to 4-digit numbers to 5-digit numbers, but manages to return back to 2 with a few hops between 4 and 5. That's unusual already, but it also hits the number it started with!
40 -> 70 -> 96 -> 180 -> 3664 -> 24717 -> 15492 -> 84198 -> 65489 -> 3725 -> 16974 -> 41702 -> 3788 -> 5757 -> 1958 -> 14609 -> 62892 -> 44745 -> 9385 -> 169 -> 40 -> ...​
* Even though we start from an integer, we are looking for sequences of digits. That means that we'll get different results if we add leading zeros. We already know that
0 -> 32 -> 15 -> 3 -> 0 -> ...​
so let's try double zero (is that a James Bond reference?), triple zero, and quadruple zero:
00 -> 307 -> 64 -> 22 -> 135 -> 2727 -> 13232 -> 202354 -> 665958 -> 1653738 -> 2634420 -> 19322923 -> 81263807 -> 1522737 -> 1799951 -> 23495684 -> 20737631 -> 181074916 -> out of range

000 -> 601 -> 1217 -> 11077 -> 170359 -> 728783 -> 1066817 -> 5265352 -> 6300025 -> 17973511 -> 15808149 -> 157446283 -> out of range

(Notice that the sequence for triple zero passes through 6300025, which contains a triple zero.)

0000 -> 13390 -> 1985 -> 11065 -> 333640 -> 463664 -> 1053702 -> 7941454 -> 11567006 -> 69921034 -> 86863832 -> 120195172 -> out of range​
"Out of range" means the pi-search site I'm using didn't find it in the first 200 million digits of pi. That tells us nothing about what happens later; the sequence could keep growing to larger numbers, return to smaller numbers, or eventually loop.

However, I think we can give up on multiple 0 patterns. They just didn't prove to be good ones.

Maybe we should have expected that 0 would be a troublemaker. After all, of the digits 0 through 9, it's the one that first occurs the latest in pi (starting in position 32), well after the other digits have appeared. In fact, the first 0 appears after every other digit has appeared at least twice. 0 is either lazy or shy!
 
Doctor Q's posts have to be one of the best posts in the world. I learn a lot from them. Thank You Doctor Q.:)
I'm glad you enjoy them. I do this nutty kind of stuff for myself and for people who like similar diversions. I've heard that some people would prefer to go outside and see if the sun is shining, but I wouldn't know anything about that. :rolleyes:

By the way, please remember that you don't need to quote big posts (I tend to go on and on, don't I?) when you reply. Some people may want to read my big posts, but nobody wants to read them twice, so use the Post Reply button, not the Quote button.
 
How about this:

Googol squared multiply by a million, divide by 3, add another googol, subtract a thousand, multiply by 9 and add another googol. What do you get?
 
I'm not the only one playing with long representations of mathematical concepts. So are these people!

They were part of the Atlas project to determine the unitary representations of Lie groups, which describe the symmetry of structures. "Lie" is pronounced "Lee", after a Norwegian mathematician.

Just this year they complete a 4-year project to map the inner workings of the exceptional Lie group E8, one of the most complicated structures ever studied. A report on their work describes the size of the resulting information (a 453,060 x 453,060 matrix of equations, some of the 205,263,363,600 equations being highly complex) by saying that "the answer, if written out in tiny print, would cover an area the size of Manhattan." It's 60 times more information than the Human Genome Project.

Why study and compute all of this information? Because it helps our understanding in many areas of mathematics and science, including algebra, chemistry, geometry, number theory, and physics. And don't forget string theory!
 
Please forgive me for bumping an ancient thread.

Happy Pi Day 2008! :)

I'm going to have cherry pi, boysenberry pi, or French Apple pi (my favorite) to celebrate.
 
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