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Discussion in 'Buying Tips and Advice' started by rest44, Aug 15, 2007.
didn´t knew where to put it,
but has anyone seen this?
not too shabby, but they'll find a way to make it suck
I remember Apple did something like this a while back... can't remember what they called it though... it is on the forums somewhere...
edit: found a youtube link to it --> here & here
nice videos of apple demo.
but the thing with this microsoft thing is that this is an actual product. I´ve find it interesting
This interface looks cool.
I like how you can share information (pictures) from the camera to the cell phone. That was sweet!
yea, I've been reading about this for a while. It's pretty cool, you can just place your camera on the table and pictures will fall right out of it!
I think it'd be a great thing for the workplace, and eventually, when parts are small enough, the home.
Nice, but I wander how many people are going to have back problems after using this table. I do like the display on the wall.
This is a few months old. But still, fun to talk about. And fun to make fun of. Check out this parody:
At the end of the day, this thing is full of holes and flaws. Will never work. When have you known Microsoft to make something so seemless? I mean come on, people. We're talking about Microsoft here.
You can't even plug in a digital camera to a Windows PC and have the photos automatically download like they do in OS X. And now you expect me to believe that I can drop a camera down on a table and they'll magically transfer? Are you kidding me???
So many unanswered questions.
I think that the technology there is great, and that Microsoft is actually doing something right in this area. The product is intended to be used in kiosks in the future.
I´m an Apple fan, but I´m also a student in the marketing area. And this thing is amazing for what they are targetering it. They can be use in a place like starbucks as a table, so you can make the order in it, get directions or even buy tickets on-line. It can be use as a presentation to a client, for some company in whatever area.
Imagen having a thing like that as an apple tv kind of thing? Like having it in your living room and using it to change channels, choose a movie to see, use it to record a program in tv, ect.
It can be used in so many ways, the concept is really good! It´s not a work area, but more a display area.
I´m not saying it is no good because is microsoft, and I´m not saying it is a great computer because I haven´t work in one. But the concept.. it surprised me, is really good.
I remember seeing Bill Gates do this on the Today Show or something a few months back. It looks like a great concept, and I'm shocked Microsoft was the one to come up with it, but I have a few major qualms about it.
1. Are people going to sacrifice their coffee tables? Sure there are a few people out there who don't care about how furniture looks and such, but there are many people who do care. Style is important to most people (esspecially the ladies) and they aren't going to buy that thing if it sticks out like a sore thumb.
2. Is its only purpose short-lived entertainment? How long can someone be amused by a table-top that acts as a touch screen? Soon enough, we want to be able to manipulate the picture in more ways than simple resizing and rotating. Sure I can imagine Photoshop being used on the surface, but that runs into some more problems, as I will point out in my next point.
3. Angle. The whole reason people buy laptop stands and adjust their moniters is to keep their necks and backs in proper alignment. Sorry, but looking down at a table for many hours doesn't do it for me; I'd be a hunch-back in two days.
4. Remote control? What? That would be the worst remote control I could ever imagine. I like to sit back and use my remote control while I'm relaxing on the couch. Sitting up and using a table-top doesn't sound very good to me. In fact, it sounds down-right irritating.
5. Some businesses can use it effectively, but others will run into trouble. For example, I can see how Starbucks or other restaurants would benefit from it, but casinos? Sure, those felt tables are pricey, but they don't wear out quickly. I imagine that the surface of that thing will probably need replacement within a year if it's being used as a Blackjack table (which I'm assuming will be the intended purpose). Not really good for a casino to have to pay $5000-$10000 every year or two when the felt table can last for a good five to seven years.
Alright, I'm done.
Hell yeah.. you put your empty cup on the "surface" and watch it re-fill.. but being microsoft n all, it will probably overload
but seriously.. it would be cool to be able to sync your phone/ipod etc.. in a similar way without having to use cables/bluetooth pairing etc..
Oh yes, I can see the lawsuits now Seriously though, I just can see most people putting up with an ugly $5000 coffee table, even if it does do tricks.
Oh, I love the idea of just putting something on a table and sharing information. I just don't think Microsoft has thought out the "ergonomics" of it all yet.
Well for 10k I wouldn't even put that in my house... Oh and that thing better be glass reinforced.. I could see my sister throwing me something across the room (her having a bad aim) and hitting + shattering that 10k table... ****...
Oh and how does a Digital Camera send photos wireless unless it has Bluetooth, which I never seen on a camera...
Won't the repeated finger prints also scratch up the screen and dirty it up, making it harder for the "computer" to recognize your finger?
Most of my doubts of this "computer" has already been said (being a hunch-back, I don't think I want the human race to take a step back like MS did to Vista).
However, if this concept was perfected (and cheap), then I hit it... lol..
Btw, I wonder if this thing will run Windows Vista, I could see this being an eye candy running OS X, but Vista? What happens if we get the blue screen on this? Touch screen keyboard? BIOS?
I imagine it would run something special, like a special OS meant just for it, yet closely tied to Windows.
You tell peole who come to your house that blue is "in" this year.
Nah... If the OS is closely tied to Windows then I'm hoping it doesn't treat its user like a dumbass... Do you want to uninstall this program and all its components? Yes. Are you sure? Yes Double Sure? F' you.
It's like putting down a drink and having that Beverage (or a bar-coded cup that tells it's carrying CocaCola lol) swirly thing coming out of it... Drop a camera and having it say Camera.. Drop a rag or a spill (anything that doesn't have a linear shape) and have it crash due to confusion... rofl.. I could see that thing crashing every time there's a spill lol... Yes...
It's Microsoft...giving people what they want isn't a factor. I think it's a good quality. Only Microsoft is brave enough to market a bulky, sh*t colored product like the Zune. We have to give them credit for a job well done
1- It´s a prototype. Of course they should work on the design. As I said, I was talking about the concept: The concept is really good, the final product I don´t know.
2 and 3- I think you´re missing something here. From what I see, this is not a desktop/laptor replacement; it´s a new thing. For personal use, I see it like something you have on your living room to show photos, videos, recording programs, ect.
4- When I spoke on control, I meant a mix betwin control, appletv and dvdplayer/recorder. Imagen this: you get home, sit on your living room, tur on the table computer and see whats on tv; you chooce to see a soccer game that´s on tv, you´r hungry and you order a pizza on it, then the halftime come up and you see a comercial for this concert you want to go, you buy the tickets right away, but as you don´t really know how to get there you get for directions on your table computer. And then your friend come up and you wanted to show him the video and photos you taked last weekend and you do it there, but as you wanted some music you program a playlist really on your table pc and it play on your stereo.
You see what I´m talking? it´s like a media center in home use. Of course 10000dollars is to much of a premium price, but as I said: I´m only speaking about the concept. I can´t stop to imagen what it can be done with it: Imagem a partnership with a furniture manufacter and sell a beautifull designed table with this tecnology incorporated.
it´s changing the world if we see it this way. It´s just geek stuff if we think about it just as a computer.
Sure it's a prototype, but the concept is based on easily sharing your stuff with other people in your home. That table has a lot of surface area to work with. If they do change it so that it's not a coffee table, where would one put the darn thing? It's not exactly a small product. If the goal is allow it to be a multi-media hub, then the family room makes the most sense. However, you can't expect a family room to be consumed by too much stuff. People do have to sit somewhere
Yes, I'm aware of what it's intended to do, I just see problems with it doing it. Like I said previously, it gets boring after a while if all you can do is drag and resize the picture. People will want to do more with it. Doing more with it is possible, but not comfortable. Eventually people will realize that their neck has been trying to tell them something, and go back to a regular computer.
I was refering to what the guy in the video said. He claimed that the table was the "ultimate unlosable remote control." I don't see this happening. I like to sit back with my remote, not sit up and tap a table. Something about it just seems wrong.
As for being beautiful furniture, forget it. It will never work out well. Only post-modern stuff would/could work. Everything else would just be weird.
You can buy compact flash form factor wifi and bluetooth cards. Not sure how compatible they are with cameras, but they exist.
Well how much do they cost? How much memory do they hold?
I may be speaking through my ass right now but I think this thing has a long way to go before the average consumer buys them. Hopefully Microsoft didn't patent this lol so Apple would release something better and running Mac OS X... lol..
Reminds me of Ender's Game.
Not just that computer, but imagen what they can do with this. They can put it in anything they can possibly think of, the table computer is just a first step. I keep thinking on something like an AppleTv kind of thing would work out really well with iteraction with your tv.
But you can also put this on refrigerators: make a calendar with piscures on it, choose temperature, see what you have or missing, ect. Put is on electronic frames: you can have paitings, pictures or even video on your walls; when you want you change them. It´s a world of possibilities. =)
At first I thought it was a typo.
Now, imagine a fridge with a giant display that is manipulatable. Pictures, why not? Videos, why not? It's all great right? WRONG. That would be the worst fridge ever. Pictures are meant to be held and admired, not projected. If you'll recall, they had a fridge a while back(2000-ish) that had a TV built into it. That one took off didn't it?
People like to stick things on their fridges, photos, calendars, notes, magnets, ect. If you take that into digital era.. you understand what I was saying.
And fridges with tv is another kind of thing, people don´t actually see tv on their fridges, but they do stick stuff. That´s something you can take to the digital domain.
Ok, we'll have to agree to disagree. I personally wouldn't get one. I like real pictures on my fridge, not a screen projecting one. Again, it's my personal taste. Like I said above, I think this technology means more to businesses than it does to home users. Businesses will be able to increase productivity with it, while for home users, it's just another $10,000 'toy.'