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bibyfok

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Does anyone has tried the beta?
I have read somewhere that it is better optimized for the Macbook.
 
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KrisLord

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I had 10.10.4 on my Mac mini so put it on my MacBook when I got it. Didn't stick with .03 long enough for any objective comparisons but not issues in .04 beta. There's a new beta out today too.
 

bibyfok

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I had 10.10.4 on my Mac mini so put it on my MacBook when I got it. Didn't stick with .03 long enough for any objective comparisons but not issues in .04 beta. There's a new beta out today too.
Do you feel your Macbook laggy when doing a lot of work? with a lot of app open ? (10+)
 

iParis

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Jul 29, 2008
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Works perfect on my 2010 MacBook, but..

With my 2015 MBA originally thought 10.10.4 was the cause of a bunch of increasingly bad wifi issues, but it's still persistent on 10.10.3. I thought that since maybe that drive/file system has been on 10.10.4 at some point that, I was going to still have problems. Now I'm convinced it's something wrong with the hardware in my 2015 MDA as I tried 10.10.3 on an external disk and and formatted the internal drive with it and it's still giving me problems. My 2010 MacBook reports accurate speeds in comparison now I'm even able to get a better connection in the MBA with using my iPhone as a USB hotspot.

I'm sure a lot of that wasn't necessary, haha, but I was already going and didn't wanna stop. D: I'm going to the Apple Store today and hopefully they have an easy fix.. They won't just simply be able to swap it out right away though because of the non-stock specs.
 

headcase

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Jul 4, 2007
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Raleigh, NC
I've been running both the first public beta of 10.10.4 and the second public beta just released today. I'm not seeing any discernible improvements running 10.10.4 on the rMB versus 10.10.3, which I suspect is what most would be curious to know.
 

Theophil1971

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Mar 20, 2015
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Using it since this morning. I don't honestly see an appreciable difference in UI performance between 10.10.3 and the 10.10.4 beta. Both have a very slight tendency to hitch when switching between full-screen apps or entering Mission Control. The "lag" on my machine (1.2,512) is noticeable but doesn't affect performance. It doesn't hinder any apps or make anything "unusable"
 

bibyfok

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Jun 14, 2012
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I have mixed feeling: the UI seems laggy almost everywhere (1.2Ghz) but the CPU usage is low when idle (2%). I don't understand why I see those lags, especially when I have made a clean install and the CPU is almost idling...
I was hoping to hear UI improvement with 10.10.4, and I start thinking on sending it back and stick with my rMBP 13 2013.
 

courboy

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Mar 27, 2009
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I have mixed feeling: the UI seems laggy almost everywhere (1.2Ghz) but the CPU usage is low when idle (2%). I don't understand why I see those lags, especially when I have made a clean install and the CPU is almost idling...
I was hoping to hear UI improvement with 10.10.4, and I start thinking on sending it back and stick with my rMBP 13 2013.

Mine is currently on order but the reason I went for the base model is because I think (don't know) that any UI lag like that is caused by either the software or the GPU. Considering the GPU is - to my knowledge - the same on all of the models, a higher speed CPU isn't likely to improve.

I am however, hoping that it's a software issue and it does seem to be because surely playing a 4k video or basic gaming is more intensive than scrolling a website with some high-resolution images on? If it is, maybe the new OS X to be announced at WWDC will resolve this issue.

I remember when I got my 2012 15" rMBP and this had severe UI lagging issues but they almost all went with later iterations of the OS.
 

headcase

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Jul 4, 2007
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I have mixed feeling: the UI seems laggy almost everywhere (1.2Ghz) but the CPU usage is low when idle (2%). I don't understand why I see those lags, especially when I have made a clean install and the CPU is almost idling...
I was hoping to hear UI improvement with 10.10.4, and I start thinking on sending it back and stick with my rMBP 13 2013.

I hear you. Sometimes the lagginess can become a real (and needless) distraction for me. Given some folks are indicating that their rMB isn't problematic, I'm waiting for my 1.3 / 512 BTO to arrive, before deciding whether to stick it out or go back to my MBA for another year.
 

bibyfok

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Jun 14, 2012
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Mine is currently on order but the reason I went for the base model is because I think (don't know) that any UI lag like that is caused by either the software or the GPU. Considering the GPU is - to my knowledge - the same on all of the models, a higher speed CPU isn't likely to improve.

I am however, hoping that it's a software issue and it does seem to be because surely playing a 4k video or basic gaming is more intensive than scrolling a website with some high-resolution images on? If it is, maybe the new OS X to be announced at WWDC will resolve this issue.

I remember when I got my 2012 15" rMBP and this had severe UI lagging issues but they almost all went with later iterations of the OS.

This is actually true: I had the first Macbook 15 and the UI lags where gone soon, however retina resolution support is now normal for MacOS so it's odd that we still have lags.
Concerning 4k, Yes, I can play a 4K video from youtube with a lot of CPU power but it plays without stuttering.

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I hear you. Sometimes the lagginess can become a real (and needless) distraction for me. Given some folks are indicating that their rMB isn't problematic, I'm waiting for my 1.3 / 512 BTO to arrive, before deciding whether to stick it out or go back to my MBA for another year.

Yes, I will use it few days and then take my decision... But for the moment its more 60% rMBP 13 / 40% rMB 12.
 

Jetcat3

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Have y'all tried reducing transparency in system preferences-accesiblity-display-reduce transparency. The UI lag is pretty much all taken away when I did this. It's running really nice now! I'll just wait until a software update enables me to turn transparency back on.
 

headcase

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Jul 4, 2007
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Raleigh, NC
Have y'all tried reducing transparency in system preferences-accesiblity-display-reduce transparency. The UI lag is pretty much all taken away when I did this. It's running really nice now! I'll just wait until a software update enables me to turn transparency back on.

That was something that was recommended to all rMB owners early on here, given the lower performance of the CPU/GPU. Transparency is needless eye candy.
 

thitiv

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Dec 3, 2011
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I have the 10.10.4 public beta installed a few hours ago. I was disappointed when I didn't notice apparent changes right after the installation. But this picture really excited me. I guessed there must be changes to the way the operating system works, to cope with the nature of fanless Core M CPUs. This picture illustrates how Apple responds. In my earlier Macs, a 15" rMBP and a 11" Air, i see "square" loads from the operating system on to the processors.
 
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