Has Apple done an about face? Push notifications are same as the badmouth RIM setup

[Rat-Boy]

I think the next best thing is to force a state save on all apps so that when you open them, you get to see what you were last working on, giving the illusion that you never shut the app down.

Apple shouldn't have to force this.

Developers of iPhone software know the limitation and they should automatically program saving in the state on exit.

Flight Control does it as does Checkbook. Several of my other apps also do it I believe.

 

[retroneo]

Apple Push Notification Service is based on XMPP, which is what Google Wave is built upon.

Now it sounds cooler

 

[doubleatheman]

Your iPhone is connected to AT&T and apple at all times. That's how it can tell your "bars" which is what text messages travel on also.

Sure? I just assumed att's towers sent out beakon signals, this way your phone can find the towers, and determin the strenght.... kinda like your wi-fi router.

 

[elbirth]

Apple shouldn't have to force this.

Developers of iPhone software know the limitation and they should automatically program saving in the state on exit.

Flight Control does it as does Checkbook. Several of my other apps also do it I believe.

True Apple shouldn't *have* to do this, but the developers that do it by default are in the vast minority. If we want something consistent across the board, Apple would have to step in and take care of it in some form.

 

[diamond.g]

It looks like Apple was talking about security and it being a single point of failure.


http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/03/06/apples_iphone_takes_on_the_enterprise.html

Odd I was under the impression that the mail that is routed through the NOC was all encrypted. It would seem that if it wasn't encrypted our government wouldn't use it.

 

[thetexan]

Blackberries are the only devices that do actual push, the rest of the devices including WebOS, WM, Apple do a fake push. RIM works with the cell companies to use a data channel to send an alert to the Blackberry when there is a push event, while the rest of the devices open a HTTP connection to a host server and wait for a reply back, that reply is the "push". This is a reason Blackberries have pretty good battery life, they are the only true push devices on the market. The rest have to ping a host server and wait for a reply, if there is no reply the connection times out and another ping is sent from the phone to the server.

 

[ebika]

For the geekgirl highly technical details of the basis of Apple's push implementation, see http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html .

 

[t0mat0]

Apple Push Notification Service is based on XMPP, which is what Google Wave is built upon.

Now it sounds cooler

And also interesting - would Google make an equivalent? Google's Wave tech seems like it could port to be used for Android phones?