Lol, exposing bias much? The guy in that 'hideous thumbnail' which you presuppose is from the competition is a pro-apple channel and pretty sure that video is a pro-apple video as well.
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mi7chy
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You're missing the point. Soldered vs user upgradable/replaceable. If the SSD in the Mac Studio dies outside of warranty that's up to $8K in the trash.
Companies do not operate this way. There are strict policies and I have dealt with them myself. If a SSD died in a Dell desktop, we would not just buy up a drive on Newegg and replace it, we send it back to Dell. Why? There might be incompatibilities in some drive firmware with our work. So limiting the number of specialized configurations (even though Dell does have different component manufacturer for the same configurations) is the best thing.
And most businesses have a 3 year computer update process (due to the very thing I mentioned that the warranty is expired so they get new computers). And with Apple's "pay for Apple Care every month for even more than 3 years" now covers your concern as it won't be "out of warranty" until I believe 10 years.
I believe Macs can be booted off external USB HDDs.
You kind of proved his point. If you care about size or noise at all, it's difficult to do better.
The first link, you have to assemble yourself and doesn't even come with a windows license or a system warranty.
The second has a case that's 7 times larger and weighs 11 pounds.
Agree about expansion if that's important.
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Has anyone else noticed the Mac Studio offers AppleCare+ at $60/year - renewable indefinitely? Is that a new thing?
That's a fantastic benefit for complete peace of mind on a professional machine for it's entire usable life.
I don't get Apple fanboys lol. Case size was not something he was asking about. He was asking about whether there is a $699 non apple machine that can go toe to toe with the base mac mini. I posted a machine that was a $100 cheaper with double the ram, expandability on every component pretty much and something that exceeds or trades blows with the base mac mini in performance. Not everyone wants or needs Windows, or they might already have an existing license they can carry over or they might want to install linux.
Again, its great that apple is able to cram those components in such a small case. No one is arguing that this is bad. Its not, on the contrary its very impressive. But here is the deal, not everyone cares lol. A lot of people are fine with a bigger case sitting underneath their desk, tucked away. Lol, jeez.
I'm more sure than ever these people exist. ;-).
Yeah, its called common sense. Not handicapping yourself just to have a small case
. You should try it sometime.Thanks for setting me straight. Hey, I'm trying to decide between the stainless steel apple watch and the aluminum, any thoughts?Yeah, its called common sense. Not handicapping yourself just to have a small case
You should message Tim Cook and see what he approves for you to purchase. Don't forget to buy https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MM6F3AM/A/polishing-cloth to clean whichever version you buy though and make sure you buy apple care on the polishing cloth as well in case it gets torn or damaged.
That cloth is actually pretty nice.
SouthPalito
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LOL how is that relevant? the thumbnail IS hideous and it follows the style of hideous thumbnails all YouTubers are using now to try to get attention and views.
Ah yeah, apologies. I re-read your post and my reply actually does not make sense. I originally read it in the context of some of the other conversations happening in this thread i.e. 'apple competitors' so I read your post in that light, but now re-reading it, I see that you just mean 'the competition to the stupidest looking thumbnails' and I agree.
cmaier
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You need all of those things to adequately run chess benchmarks that are allegedly relevant to an amount of people equal to 2/3 of the U.S. population.
Or something like that.
Mr.PT
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Just feel the extra stuff is not worth 860€ price difference to Ultrafine. Apple should have opted for better visual specs instead.
loby
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I think you hit it right on with you comment.
This is for “really” a target audience that NEEDS this kind of system. And “Really” those who “Really” need it does not blink an eye at the pricing etc. Semi “real” Pros is the target market and of course anyone else (like most of Apple fans) will buy just because they want it (not need it).
I can agree with a “disappointing” attitude that iMac 27” is finished withbits product cycle. Apple knows how many buy the 27” iMac. Apple is totally about sales and profits (don’t kind yourself people..Apple is a business). They make their decisions based on what makes them money and if the they stopped investing in iMac 27”, it means there is little sales now that hits their target goals for the product, not killing something that everyone loved and is buying just because they feel like it. Apple has a strong marketing team and knows what sells and what will (generally) people buy for the future. Not every time of course, but usually or “generally”gets it correct now a days.
We “may” see some offering of a “27-32” iMac Pro or something much later, but only if the marketing palm readers predict good sales for a future product or when the hype goes down for the Mac Studio. Mac Pro is next…so Apple wants that too to sell and The next focus..so a larger iMac may be some time offered well into 2023 or beyond. We just have to wait or buy what they offer. That is the Name of the Game..
loby
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Yes…had this issue with my external OWC enclosure (thunderbolt 3) running video editing on MacBook Pro M1 Max. The computer process too quick (to my delight) for the enclosure to keep up, causing some bottle-necking. Glad I had some sense and spent the extra for a 2TB internal that is blazing fast. Purposely keep 1TB free on the internal drive to use instead for basic video projects now. Wish I originally had the funds to buy a 4TB internal so I would not need an external drive, but such is life.
loby
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Those who have businesses where they can either write it off on their taxes, or make the cost up on a few projects later, factoring costs into their price and profit margins etc. can afford or find the means to purchase these higher costing tools. Non-profit corporations or businesses (as most churches are considered) or charities can’t necessarily do this unless they are a larger (A Giving church) or organization etc. that have fixed income or funding that can afford it.
In non-profit arenas, the individual usually has to pay themselves if they want the best toys to work with…It is the nature of non-profits, charities and churches. It is what it is…
The 20-core M1 Ultra is a no-brainer for any company who can cut highly paid developers' build times in half. Chump change before or after depreciation.
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100% this... I'm a consumer level... but can't afford a Tesla... so the Mac Studio is as close I'm going to get...
True, but you also get *much* worse integrated graphics for the price, no USB-C ports (there's a header for one on the case, but that case doesn't have any), and no Thunderbolt ports. Not to mention much higher power consumption, which can also change the long-term value equation depending on how much you pay for electricity. Factor in the cost of a comparable discrete GPU and you're sitting around the ~$800 USD mark.
Of course you can't get that sort of upgradeability in any Apple Silicon Mac for any price, so that's clearly an important consideration for people who like to upgrade piecemeal instead of all at once.
thettareddast
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it supports the point perfectly.
guy expressed disappointment that computer didn't come with 40tb SSD storage. it makes no sense for computer to be offered with 40tb SSD storage.
the people who actually need 40tb of storage, uses a separate stack, whether connected to machine directly or access a network.
and the other benefit? modularity, and no risk of death as you described.