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Mail, Facebook and Safari, all of which drain the battery heavily. By the end of the day, I'm usually down to around 20% if I stick to those apps. If I choose to watch video or listen to live audio streams, I need to recharge at some point during the day.

You got too much spare time to be spending that much time on your phone. Do you work for the government?
 
It has in the development field...

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/130...in-seconds-last-months-and-power-over-the-air

...but creating the perfect battery that charges fast and doesn't degrade is similar to why companies like Apple refuse to make it swappable or pack iPhones with larger capacity. A financial reason since less and less people will update as frequently.
So they decrease battery capacity to force people replacing their yet outdated devices much faster? This is not cheating. This is...what should I say...
 
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Battery life is the one imperfection that companies don't want to perfect. I would love to have a phone that I only need to charge once a week. The only way I could do that now is if I rotated 6-8 different phones. At least half of them probably wouldn't need to be charged except once or twice a week and the batteries on all of them wouldn't degrade as fast. But knowing making the perfect battery will cut off future business, it is the one area where OEMs don't want to put too much effort in.
 
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It has in the development field...

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/130...in-seconds-last-months-and-power-over-the-air

...but creating the perfect battery that charges fast and doesn't degrade is similar to why companies like Apple refuse to make it swappable or pack iPhones with larger capacity. A financial reason since less and less people will update as frequently.
Looks like that article vindicates @Benjamin Frost earlier statement that (until now) battery technology hasn't advanced in decades--for the end consumer especially.

Did anyone notice that Google hired a former Apple battery expert? I've now lost count of the number of articles I've read that make mention of former Apple employee from key positions being hired to work at some of Apple's fiercest competitors, like Google and Huawei. I hope these people are just dead weight and not people who made Apple great and that their exodus is not indicative of internal turmoil causing a retention problem.
 
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Ah. Facebook. Yeah that will do it haha. What's your actual usage though? What's draining the most? I find Facebook drains NYC more than anything else, which stands to reason.
Over the last week: Facebook: 25%, Mail (Background Activity) 19%, Safari 11%, MLB At Bat (Audio) 8%, and so on. And I feel like I probably spend just an hour, maybe two, in total on the phone each day.

This device is old enough that it's grandfathered in for Gmail Exchange ActiveSync, so that's obviously going to use up a good portion of battery life. I've been wondering if switching to the Gmail app would make any difference.

So I guess these exotic technologies like fuel cells and nuclear power are still a long way off, if they ever become feasible for mobile devices. Seems like it would be pretty easy to slap solar cells on the back of the phone, to help keep it topped off when not in use.
 
Id like Apple to stop making all these gadgets thinner. They keep on making the technology smaller, which is good, but they need to stop following up the smaller technology with making everything thinner. Reduce the size of the components and replace all that saved space with more battery, in my opinion.
This. The iPhone SE is a good example. Terrific battery life (and no camera bump, yay!) because it wasn't slimmed down to the maximum possible, like the 6/6s.

I've never heard anyone complain that their iPhone is too thick, ever. Yet people complain about the battery life constantly. Apple (J. Ive?) seems to have a near-pathological obsession with thinness, even when it's not something the consumer is asking for and makes zero difference to the usability of the product (iMac, anyone?).

I think the fundamental premise of this thread is right - battery tech isn't advancing much. But it might seem like it were if Apple would stop making thinness its primary objective.
 
Looks like that article vindicates @Benjamin Frost earlier statement that (until now) battery technology hasn't advanced in decades--for the end consumer especially.

Did anyone notice that Google hired a former Apple battery expert? I've now lost count of the number of articles I've read that make mention of former Apple employee from key positions being hired to work at some of Apple's fiercest competitors, like Google and Huawei. I hope these people are just dead weight and not people who made Apple great and that their exodus is not indicative of internal turmoil causing a retention problem.
I don't know, clearly today's lithium-ion rechargeable batteries are quite a bit different for the end consumer than just plain alkaline ones from decades ago, or even NiCd rechargeable ones used for cell phones and other devices from some years ago.
 
Over the last week: Facebook: 25%, Mail (Background Activity) 19%, Safari 11%, MLB At Bat (Audio) 8%, and so on. And I feel like I probably spend just an hour, maybe two, in total on the phone each day.

This device is old enough that it's grandfathered in for Gmail Exchange ActiveSync, so that's obviously going to use up a good portion of battery life. I've been wondering if switching to the Gmail app would make any difference.

So I guess these exotic technologies like fuel cells and nuclear power are still a long way off, if they ever become feasible for mobile devices. Seems like it would be pretty easy to slap solar cells on the back of the phone, to help keep it topped off when not in use.
Facebook might save you some if you set all alerts to off. For a while I had it set to alert me and wake my screen just about every time something happened (default settings basically). I realized I generally don't care about anything on Facebook to want it to alert me to that degree. In fine just checking the app and thumbing through alerts. If that's you, and you haven't changed settings, I recommend it.
 
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These phones need a small nuclear power battery the kind nasa uses
Yeah that's what we don't need. Everyone walking around with some plutonium in their pockets. You must not realize that plutonium is the most toxic material mankind has invented. Even nature in it's infininate wisdom has not produced plutonium anywhere in the universe. A dust spec size of plutonium will kill you and the next person, and the next person and so on that comes in contact with it. Besides the NASA deep space power source is quite hot to the touch. The electricity it makes is by thermal reaction and extends out from the spacecraft, sort of like a fat selfi stick.

Battery technology is chemistry, and structures. Advances are under way that involve smaller and smaller particles of the active ingredients like lithium in batteries. Nanotechnology batteries have been developed in the laboratory. However translating that into a mass produced product in the millions is not always practical. Physically and financially. Would you pay twice or three times the price of your current phone?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cutdrawing_of_an_GPHS-RTG.jpg
 
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