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TimmeyCook

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Why people expect Google to "win" anything? To be successful in the long term?

Google makes all their money from advertising, a product they have since basically inception, it would be like Apple only making money from Macs. All they have been trying since Android (which is a moderate success at best, Google PlayStore only gets 33% of the revenue, Google Pixel doesn't sell in significant numbers) has been a failure.

Google Play Music? Spotify and Apple iTunes Music Store/Music are winning, are winning it all, with AM closing to Spotify.

Android TV? Mainly used for piracy. The market is fractured, but Apple, for example, has been doing a far better job.

Google Now/Assistant? No doubt, Amazon Alexa is wining this one right now, and Siri is the most used personal assistant in mobile devices.

The self driving car? It's never coming out, according to specialists, GM, of all companies, is the closest to actually deliver a self-driving car.

Android Wear? Pretty much dead at this point, Apple won.

Tablets? They were forced to back off with their Android tablets, and are now trying again with dumping the chromebooks that people don't want to schools.

And there's the cloud business.... it's completely dominated by Amazon. Amazon makes more revenue than Google and Microsoft combined, Microsoft doubles Google revenue and then some.

Google Plus and their numerous messaging Apps? What a joke, Facebook owns that market with their products, and even the lil' Snapchat and the lil' Twitter did a better job than the colossal company that was one time the biggest company in the world. Apple and Microsoft also do a decent job there with iMessage, Facetime and Skype being household names with hundreds of millions of active users.

Military Projects, Google bought Boston Dynamics just to sell it shortly thereafter. Google had a contract with the Pentagon that they have failed to accomplish (not widely reported as Google controls the media and can't do wrong, but here it is), and recently Google employees revolted refusing to work in "drones that kill people".

That's what I'm remembering so far. So much for the company that "is going to dominate the future".

Yet, Alphabet's P/E is at 30.65 right now.
 
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Google Cloud Platform, offered by Google, is a suite of cloud computing services that runs on the same infrastructure that Google uses internally for its end-user products, such as Google Search and YouTube.Wikipedia

Initial release: October 6, 2011; 6 years ago
 

TimmeyCook

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Google Cloud Platform, offered by Google, is a suite of cloud computing services that runs on the same infrastructure that Google uses internally for its end-user products, such as Google Search and YouTube.Wikipedia

Initial release: October 6, 2011; 6 years ago

That doesn't refute the fact that has been an anemic product for Google.

And that's wrong. There were been cases of Google cloud services went down, but not Google's services. Google isn't using the dog food method.
 

TimmeyCook

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Links?
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Linjs?

Sure thing.

You have this source: https://www.srgresearch.com/article...amazon-microsoft-google-all-gain-market-share

And this source: https://www.parkmycloud.com/blog/aws-vs-azure-vs-google-cloud-market-share/

Google is just a tiny spec to Amazon, even behind IBM and less than half of Microsoft, aren't they supposed to be masters of cloud?

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it's not an anemic product, you simply want to bash Google and can't make a point.

  1. Snapchat
  2. Airbnb
  3. Costco
  4. TiVo
  5. Zillow
  6. Citrix
  7. Khan Academy
  8. Atomic Fiction
  9. Wix
  10. Ubisoft
Others:
https://cloud.google.com/customers/

Yeah, I just posted actual results.

Listing clients isn't going to help.
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Links?
[doublepost=1529887921][/doublepost]
Links?

https://status.cloud.google.com

For example, there was an outage of BigQuery June 22 and Google Search didn't went down.
 

AidenShaw

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Sure thing.

You have this source: https://www.srgresearch.com/article...amazon-microsoft-google-all-gain-market-share

And this source: https://www.parkmycloud.com/blog/aws-vs-azure-vs-google-cloud-market-share/

Google is just a tiny spec to Amazon, even behind IBM and less than half of Microsoft, aren't they supposed to be masters of cloud?

CIS_Q417.jpg

[doublepost=1529888214][/doublepost]

Yeah, I just posted actual results.

Listing clients isn't going to help.
No, you posted "market share", when your original claim was that "Amazon makes more money than Google and Microsoft combined".

Don't you realize that "profits" (as in making money) and "market share" are different things?
 

TimmeyCook

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No, you posted "market share", when your original claim was that "Amazon makes more money than Google and Microsoft combined".

Don't you realize that "profits" (as in making money) and "market share" are different things?

Thanks, corrected.
 

AidenShaw

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You should support your points with a few links - like supporting your claim that Android TV is for piracy.
 
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TimmeyCook

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You should support your points with a few links - like supporting your claim that Android TV is for piracy.

Prove me wrong.

All the Android TV boxes I've seen to sell were marketed as "kodi boxes", and used as much.
 

AidenShaw

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Prove me wrong.

All the Android TV boxes I've seen to sell were marketed as "kodi boxes", and used as much.
In normal discourse, when someone makes a claim it is their onus to support that claim.

The burden is never on the other party to "prove them wrong" - they need to "prove themselves right".
 

TimmeyCook

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I think the biggest problem with some of these is that the OP is equating success with being #1.

What equals success then?

Someone likes it, means it's successful, then?

Apple Music Connect is a successful product then.
 
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