Has the new P30 Pro made the iPhone obsolete?

Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by Renho, Apr 3, 2019.

  1. Renho macrumors 68000

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    With the tech they add every year and the huge camera strides they make. The P30 Pro is sounding like the best smartphone ever made as a whole on the World level! I know the screen isn’t as good as it should be but everything else is top notch. The low light function and 50x zoom is INCREDIBLE! The dual video view is my favorite of all and it’s $200 cheaper than an iPhone. And after hearing the iPhone 11 rumored to not be anything special. It seems like the iPhone is an afterthought on the World level! If only they could sell Huawei in the US I would be buying one for sure and making the switch.

    Apple is in smartphone trouble, Thoughts?
     
  2. C DM, Apr 3, 2019
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    Does it run iOS (and thus iOS apps)?

    Is it also from a company like Apple that is generally know to be quite consumer friendly and approachable/reachable?
     
  3. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    Unless the P30 is running iOS, Apple has nothing to worry about!

    I would never buy anything from Huawei!

    Enjoy!
     
  4. MEJHarrison macrumors 65816

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    I don't buy my phones based on spec sheets, I buy based on the ecosystem. This doesn't run iOS, so it's out. At the levels we're dealing with these days, software absolutely trumps hardware for me.

    Also, last I checked, my iPhone is still alive and kicking. It doesn't appear to have been made obsolete. It still does everything today it was able to do yesterday. At this point, I have every reason to suspect the story will be the same tomorrow.
     
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    I'm buying a smart phone, not a camera, so even if the camera is "OMG this is da bomb!!!11", that isn't all there is to look at. Speaking of looking at... you said the screen isn't that great, so yeah, there's that.

    A smart phone is so much more than a camera, and my iPhone checks more boxes than any other device for me.
     
  7. JPack, Apr 3, 2019
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    After reading the article and watching the video, it's clear the iPhone camera is pretty mediocre.

    Consumers in the U.S. who can't buy Huawei will probably think smartphone cameras haven't advanced much. But everywhere else in the world, it's obvious cameras are making huge strides.

    The Verge: The iPhone’s camera used to be a selling point

    The P30 Pro can literally take a photo of the galaxy.



    Given that Apple is barely matching Pixel 2 quality photos, I don't have much hope for iPhone 11 making any waves in the photo department.
     
  8. timeconsumer macrumors 68000

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    I feel out of the loop on this, but do people generally consider camera quality the most important feature when buying a smartphone? For what I would use a camera for all smartphones today are perfectly fine.

    For me it comes down to security/fast updates, long term software support and hardware support. But I think of my smartphone as more of a computing device that fits into my pocket, not a camera so my wants/needs are obviously going to be different. For me the iPhone is the best device.
     
  9. JPack macrumors 68040

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    Not the most important feature, but certainly a top 5 priority for buyers.

    The smartphone is a communications device. You can only text so much while a photo speaks a thousand words. It's why Apple invests in Animojis and perhaps not enough in cameras.

    Look other features Apple has invested in such as, AR, facial recognition, fitness tracking, and parental controls. These are great for some people but I think many would prefer better cameras rather than better AR.
     
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    does Huawei have a storefront? does Huawei have a genius bar where I can bring my iPhone for a 1 hour repair if its broken? does Huawei have OS updates? Apple still updates the iPhone 5S which came out years ago. I don't buy phones for the camera, there's DSLR for that
     
  11. I7guy macrumors Core

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    My top 5 reasons to buy an iPhone:
    - iOS
    - excellent hardware
    - ecosystem
    - longevity
    - Support

    The camera isn't even in the top 5, for me.

    And I want to have as much fun with Animoji’s as the camera. What you believe people want might be different than what people actually want.
     
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    Even Huawei’s cfo is using iPhones iPads and macs.

    Apple has nothing to worry about.
     
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    99% of my camera use is taking a pic of some item on Walmart's shelf so my wife can see what she wants me to bring home for her.

    Does she really need to see it in high def?

    Honestly people are just overboard on phone cams. I get people want to take pics but beyond good quality I don't see a point unless you're a pro.

    A bazillion megapixels or not other people still don't want to see pics of your vacation or family outing. So the only person this caters to is the self-obsessed. My opinion.
     
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    I hope apple never copies Huawei’s camera.

    If you like the p30 you should definitely get one.

    Which iPhone are you currently using?
     
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    So…if I am not interested in camera quality does this still make your choice the 'best'?
     
  16. Pakaku macrumors 68020

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    If the iPhone still takes good pictures, it's not obsolete. I also think that a lot of us would rather not be price-gouged on camera quality if we had the option to opt for a standard-HD quality camera in an otherwise top-of-the-line iPhone, so are our choices obsolete now?
     
  17. Renho thread starter macrumors 68000

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    I get it, IOS ecosystem. I’m just an iPhone user, nothing else Apple.
    So if we just used phones as a basis and not an eco system.

    Let’s point out a couple main features stacked up.

    Battery: over 1000mAh more on P30

    We all know the CPU will always be better on the iPhone. But really, does opening an app a second sooner matter that much? It seems like with all the tests video editing is where iPhone really flex’s it muscles but everything else is basically the same.

    More apps can be held in the ram on P30

    More storage options

    Fastest charging standard out of the box, 85% in 30 min..(including wireless 15w)

    I could go on but it just seems Apple doesn’t care to be the Top dog in the world anymore as far as innovation. And when we pay more for a phone then rivals and get way less in a lot of areas it is depressing.
     
  18. C DM, Apr 3, 2019
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    iOS/Apple, on its own, can and does play a big role for plenty, even if they only have an iPhone.
     
  19. Shanghaichica macrumors G4

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    The camera on the p30 Pro is impressive, along with other features like reverse wireless charging and the in display FPS. However it can’t render the iPhone obsolete as it doesn’t run iOS.
     
  20. Renho thread starter macrumors 68000

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    I respect that. Everyone will be different and care about different stuff. It’s just sad to me to see all these beautiful New buildings being built around me and I’m stuck in the older so so building. Lol
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    I get that, but on the world level. I bet that is going to be less and less cared about.
     
  21. AustinIllini macrumors demi-goddess

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    The problem with these cross-comparisons is iPhone is built entirely for iOS. So the raw stats are not really an even comparison. Also, with the Huawei running Android, it's hard to tell if the phone will perform the same in 4-6 months.

    In short, no. Apple's investment in a wholly owned Operating System and ecosystem makes it completely relevant with comparable specs.

    Right now, iPhone is right where it should be, but come September it needs to be as good or better than the P30.
     
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    I guess the point everyone here is making is that it doesn't run on iOS, so it doesn't matter what other companies are offering because it's the software that makes the difference. I'm sure Apple knows this, but I'm also sure they'll still work on developing the best phone they can.
     
  23. MEJHarrison macrumors 65816

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    If you're not getting value for your money, it would be silly to keep spending that money. If Apple doesn't give you want you need, stop giving them money!

    As for me, I can't agree with the "get way less" part of that statement. But I'm not solely focused on hardware like you seem to be. While we might get less on the spec sheets, there's a much bigger story being told here than just hardware. Some of us care about that bigger picture, thus we still find value is giving Apple money and don't find ourselves depressed by our decisions.
     
  24. Shanghaichica macrumors G4

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    I was surprised that she had so many Apple products on her. Not like she’s just an average employee, it’s her dad’s company. You’d think she’d believe in the products.
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    Neither would I and it’s got nothing to do with them spying for the Chinese government as I don’t care about that. I don’t have any faith in the quality of their products. Huawei have long had a reputation in the UK as being producers of cheap Chinese Tat. Maybe they’ve improved their quality standards but I just wouldn’t take this risk.
     
  25. FFR macrumors 601

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    She probably values her privacy.... wealthy people tend to love walled gardens ;)

    That doesn’t surprise me, Huawei doesn’t sell that many expensive phones to begin with, its more of a value brand no matter how hard they are now trying to pivot.
     

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