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Has the throttling issue been blown out of proportion?

  • No. In fact, there should be more outrage.

    Votes: 115 33.8%
  • No. Apple has received the appropriate amount of backlash and loss of trust.

    Votes: 68 20.0%
  • Yes. It’s not as big a deal as people are making it out to be.

    Votes: 157 46.2%

  • Total voters
    340
Serious question. You have 42 posts in this thread. Why are you so passionate about something that doesn't affect you?

This is not the thread about the problem or a potential solution. This is the thread asking if the situation is “overblown” and I have an opinion on that.

And it affects me because we own 5 iPhone 6’s and none are demonstrating any throttling. Now, 4 of them are in a drawer because we replaced them with iPhone X’s but that’s a different story.
 
Apple updated their OS and is helping millions of old iPhones avoid a shutdown and that’s a bad thing?

No. If you read my post, you will see that I specifically stated that the solution is not a bad thing. The FACT that apple kept it secret while allowing customers to upgrade when a battery change was all that was needed is the bad thing.

This Apple assassination is ludicrous on numerous grounds. Enough already.
Not ludicrous at all because you clearly do not understand the real issue.
 
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Apple updated their OS and is helping millions of old iPhones avoid a shutdown and that’s a bad thing?

And this conspiracy logic makes no sense. Trust me, if Apple really wanted to be evil and force people to buy a new iPhone they would have just done nothing. Let the batteries die. Spending $80 on a battery or just getting a new iPhone? The majority would just get a new iPhone.

This Apple assassination is ludicrous on numerous grounds. Enough already.

A person who is still using a model like the 6S is either content with their phone or frugal...in either case they would more likely spend $80 to replace the battery than dish out $800-$1000 for a new phone.
 
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I cannot believe anyone is actually going to back Apple's defense on this matter. Apple's thinly veiled excuse for a reason belies they were intentionally, illegally, unethically and immorally crippling hardware for their own profit. I fully endorse states' attorney generals to pursue legal action against Apple; levy heavy fines, compensation to iPhone owners and a formal apology from Cook. I was just about to say I extremely surprised there are any comments supporting Apple at all but then again it is well known that Apple heavily trolls Macrumors forums for their benefit.
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Apple updated their OS and is helping millions of old iPhones avoid a shutdown and that’s a bad thing?

And this conspiracy logic makes no sense. Trust me, if Apple really wanted to be evil and force people to buy a new iPhone they would have just done nothing. Let the batteries die. Spending $80 on a battery or just getting a new iPhone? The majority would just get a new iPhone.

This Apple assassination is ludicrous on numerous grounds. Enough already.
Slowing down an iPhone 7 that is only a year old is just wrong. I don’t expect to spend £800 on a phone to be slowed down after a year. Apple knew exactly what they were doing conning people plain and simple
 
The FACT that apple kept it secret while allowing customers to upgrade when a battery change was all that was needed is the bad thing.

Apple makes changes to iOS 6x a year, making changes to thousands of lines of code each time written by an army of developers on dozens of different teams. This was no conspiracy. This was an attempt to help loyal iPhone users avoid a shutdown in emergency situations, like what happened to me on a ski slope in 18 degree temperatures where my iPhone shut down and I couldn't call my family for an hour until I could warm it up in a ski lodge. The unintended consequence is that geeks using a geek app are claiming a slow down that is in number only, can't be felt.

Not ludicrous at all because you clearly do not understand the real issue.

Your entire premise is wrong. Apple a) would never deliberately manipulate a multi-billion dollar market and b) would never do so in a manner by which a high school student could find it so obviously. Only dumb companies do such dumb things. Apple is no dummy.
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A person who is still using a model like the 6S is either content with their phone or frugal...in either case they would more likely spend $80 to replace the battery than dish out $800-$1000 for a new phone.

Before this whole phony scandal started, my wife and I owned 2 iPhone 6's and my 3 kids owned iPhone 6S's before getting 4 iPhone X's. We have a net worth of $15M. We are not frugal. It's too much hassle to replace a battery and in the process commit oneself to another year of the same old phone. I would argue most iPhone owners are looking for reasons to get the cool new version, not hold onto the old one. Apple is not catering to the Craigslist crowd. That is an unintended consequence of all those heavily subsidized phones back in 2015.

A phone shutting down when it should have 30% battery life left would lead to the purchase of new iPhones, not the purchase of new batteries. Apple customers choose Apple because of edgy features and convenience. They're not the change-the-battery type. If there really was a conspiracy Apple would have never made the power management decision they did, they would have let the batteries die on their own, and they would have stopped selling replacement batteries.
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Slowing down an iPhone 7 that is only a year old is just wrong. I don’t expect to spend £800 on a phone to be slowed down after a year. Apple knew exactly what they were doing conning people plain and simple

And who says they are slowing down iPhone 7's to the extent that it can be felt by the user? No one. Unless someone has jailbroken the phone or is letting their phone go down to 2% battery each day. My kids usage patterns are similar. Their backlights are on 23 hours a day, Snapchat alerts, Instagram alerts, streaming movies, sending texts, the phones get no rest, their screens are always lit, draining the battery to a premature death.

And if that happened? I wouldn't blame Apple. I'd blame my kids. Let them find $79, let them get a ride to the mall, let them wait for the repair. I wouldn't cry like an entitled brat needing a safe space. I'd take responsibility for my own actions, or in this case, my teens.
 
Who is “we”?
Why do you take this personal?

I have a feeling some people have an invested stake in Apple or directly represent Apple on these forums. As a result they passionately defend the company. They don't have time to replace batteries, but can spend hours here arguing about it.

After reading much of this for an against debate, I have come to the conclusion that Apple was caught doing something that had negative consequences regardless of reason. Whether it was intentional to sell more phones, or "a fix" to prolong the life of the phone and it's battery, the bottom line is it was not disclosed, it affected many people, and it looks bad.

It's great so many people put all their faith in Apple as a company, but it is still a corporation (With their corporate headquarters in Ireland no?). They are in business to sell product and make money. I would assume profits and appeasing the shareholders comes first.
 
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Apple should do no such thing. Those still using old jailbroken iPhones do so at their own risk. If they are incompatible with newer power management protocols too bad.

As someone always in new iPhones I don’t want my iOS innovations to slow or my iPhone prices to rise because a small minority hack the OS, abuse their hardware, and run some BS benchmarking app to make a phony case that they are entitled to retribution.

You are insinuating that only people that jailbreak "old" iPhones are having issues? How did you come to this conclusion?
 
I have had a theory, for a very long time, that all the awful Apple badmouthing being reported by some iPhone owners about mysterious issues that I never encountered were coming from jailbreakers.

I'm beginning to believe was right.

As a person who started with the original 74-step jailbreak, I can tell you that I've never had a problem while jailbroken. Stop painting with such a broad brush. You're wrong.
 
I have had a theory, for a very long time, that all the awful Apple badmouthing being reported by some iPhone owners about mysterious issues that I never encountered were coming from jailbreakers.

I'm beginning to believe was right.

So if it didn't happen to you it never happened to anyone else? Interesting. I'd like to see an article, any article, paper, study, anything that supports your jailbreak theory.
 
A person who is still using a model like the 6S is either content with their phone or frugal...in either case they would more likely spend $80 to replace the battery than dish out $800-$1000 for a new phone.

Bingo. I like mine, it's fast. It will be a bit slower in a year or two, but probably still adequate for me. Reduce performance by 60, though...

And it stings because performance is the reason I upgraded my 6 six months ago. It turned into a pig. Now there's an explanation.
 
I have the same question. He comes up with some “interesting” things to try to back his point of view. (When he’s not blowing off about his wealth. Don’t know how that fits into these discussions)

I've noticed that too. But not to long ago I was defending another member regarding comments made here and I got suspended for a week. I now choose my words carefully.

The more I read the more I am convinced some of those commenting here have ulterior motives. i.e., they are hired to comment for or against something, or work for the entity involved.

Or in some cases are just colorful individuals, who come here to play with others. Who knows.
 
Without digging thru all these threads I thought more than a few people had mentioned going into an Apple store to get a check-up due to their phones getting laggy and found the batteries tested ok. So Genius said it doesn't need a new battery as battery is testing good. But phone still laggy. What is the average non techy person to do or think? Maybe it's time I need a new phone? How is this not underhanded and sneaky if a battery replacement would have fixed it? This scenario just stinks and I'm thinking it's going on. Anybody who thinks Apple can do no wrong, always knows what's right for their customers, stands by Apple no matter what and says stupid BS like this is power management that's been going on for years then, Rock On!!

EDIT: Forgot I wanted to ask, What the heck is wrong with jailbreaking and why do we/he want revenge? That makes zero sense to me. Sheesh, how the heck does that make one iota of difference as to why Apple is throttling our phones
 
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Without digging thru all these threads I thought more than a few people had mentioned going into an Apple store to get a check-up due to their phones getting laggy and found the batteries tested ok. So Genius said it doesn't need a new battery as battery is testing good. But phone still laggy. What is the average non techy person to do or think? Maybe it's time I need a new phone? How is this not underhanded and sneaky if a battery replacement would have fixed it? This scenario just stinks and I'm thinking it's going on. Anybody who thinks Apple can do no wrong, always knows what's right for their customers, stands by Apple no matter what and says stupid BS like this is power management that's been going on for years then, Rock On!!

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/08/battery-replacements-sometimes-one-per-iphone/
 
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