Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

Libertas

macrumors regular
Original poster
Feb 27, 2018
195
22
I use it about 5 hours a day, charged it to 100 a few times, trying not to do that now.

This seems wrong to me.

I guess if I had to replace it in a year I would be OK with that, what is it about $100? My wife has an XR now for 3 yrs and battery is 88%.
 

Andeddu

macrumors 68000
Dec 21, 2016
1,631
2,025
Normal. It’ll go down quickly then sit around 84% for 6 months or so. There is almost zero chance you’ll see <80% battery health in 2 years unless you are draining and charging your phone 2x or more per day.

I think a battery replacement is $79. Well worth doing after 2 years if you intend on keeping your device.
 
  • Like
Reactions: bondr006

bondr006

macrumors 68020
Jun 8, 2010
2,462
16,166
Cary, NC - My Name is Rob Bond
98% is normal use.
Normal. It’ll go down quickly then sit around 84% for 6 months or so. There is almost zero chance you’ll see <80% battery health in 2 years unless you are draining and charging your phone 2x or more per day.

I think a battery replacement is $79. Well worth doing after 2 years if you intend on keeping your device.
5 hours a day is serious use. 98% is sounding right.
Normal maybe for his use case, but 98% after 1 month is not normal with correct battery care. I have had my 13PM since June 2022 and it is still 100% battery health. I will say that charging it multiple times a day is detrimental to battery health though, and probably the cause for the 2% degradation in his battery life after only one month.
 
  • Like
Reactions: graffia274

Jackbequickly

macrumors 68020
Aug 6, 2022
2,422
2,464
Normal maybe for his use case, but 98% after 1 month is not normal with correct battery care. I have had my 13PM since June 2022 and it is still 100% battery health. I will say that charging it multiple times a day is detrimental to battery health though, and probably the cause for the 2% degradation in his battery life after only one month.

I agree not normal but not outside the realm of possibility. Apple will not do anything.
 

sunapple

macrumors 68030
Jul 16, 2013
2,740
5,067
The Netherlands
Maybe it's not super accurate? My iPhone 13 mini is still on 100% after 6 months, that doesn't make much sense either. You don't need to take action, just see how it develops over the coming months. Wouldn't think it would keep this pace up and if it did or got worse, you should have warranty.
 

negative_

macrumors newbie
Jan 18, 2023
14
5
Normal maybe for his use case, but 98% after 1 month is not normal with correct battery care. I have had my 13PM since June 2022 and it is still 100% battery health. I will say that charging it multiple times a day is detrimental to battery health though, and probably the cause for the 2% degradation in his battery life after only one month.
which one makes more sense?
stay the same for a long time and drop too fast or...?

for example
13PM from November 2021 still at 99% here.
do you think this could be real value?
 

bondr006

macrumors 68020
Jun 8, 2010
2,462
16,166
Cary, NC - My Name is Rob Bond
which one makes more sense?
stay the same for a long time and drop too fast or...?

for example

do you think this could be real value?
Going on 8 months and my 13PM is still 100%. Fact!

Screenshot 2023-01-23 at 13.23.21.png
IMG_1277.jpg
 
Last edited:

bondr006

macrumors 68020
Jun 8, 2010
2,462
16,166
Cary, NC - My Name is Rob Bond
this is fake..if you want to real battery life...


These guys are some of the worst YouTubers out there. I have caught them in so many lies. They are just click bait. Lithium ion batteries wear how they are taken care of. Fact! Charging several times a day will wear them out faster. Letting it go to 0% often will wear them out faster. Using charging methods that create excessive heat will wear them out faster. Correct battery care will definitely extend the life and health of lithium ion batteries.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: turbochgd

Sorig

macrumors 6502
Nov 2, 2017
316
249
which one makes more sense?
stay the same for a long time and drop too fast or...?

for example

do you think this could be real value?
I double confirmed my battery capacity using coconutBattery.

But battery wear is not lineal. Also the remaining max battery capacity is just one of the factors in the overall health of a battery.

In my experience, my iPhones have always stayed at 100% battery capacity for the longest time then it starts dropping more quickly after 99%.

This is because many new batteries actually come with some extra mAh over design capacity, but iOS will not report more than 100%. Also because the battery is at the best health chemically it will ever be.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: bondr006

negative_

macrumors newbie
Jan 18, 2023
14
5
Lithium ion batteries wear how they are taken care of. Fact! Charging several times a day will wear them out faster. Letting it go to 0% often will wear them out faster. Using charging methods that create excessive heat will wear them out faster. Correct battery care will definitely extend the life and health of lithium ion batteries.
I agree 100% with what you said..but the count there is wrong. Many times I have seen sudden very rapid drops, not one by one...
especially after updates
 
Last edited:

Libertas

macrumors regular
Original poster
Feb 27, 2018
195
22
These guys are some of the worst YouTubers out there. I have caught them in so many lies. They are just click bait. Lithium ion batteries wear how they are taken care of. Fact! Charging several times a day will wear them out faster. Letting it go to 0% often will wear them out faster. Using charging methods that create excessive heat will wear them out faster. Correct battery care will definitely extend the life and health of lithium ion batteries.
Thanks for reminding me of charging techniques. My phone is now 50 days old and is at 97%, but I do use it as follows: avg screen on per day 5 h 17 mn avg screen off 1h 20 mn...and usually 2 hours of that is LIVE streaming on YT which I know drains the battery much quicker, at least it does on mine (Live streaming being the difference, hopefully someone will confirm this for me.)

I have traditionally charged it in the middle of the day at around 50% because while it probably would last till that night what if I lose power, which where I live can be an issue (but not that often really, just that when it happens you always wish you had done this and that.)

If I do not charge it during the day and wait till that night, most of the time anyway, maybe that would preserve the battery? I dont know, I also dont know if I get it too hot, I dont think I do.

I dont care if I have to replace the battery in a year and pay for it if that means I have the original full capacity, for instance if my battery is at 88% after a year, like my 11 was, I would rather get a new battery than a new phone.

Thanks...

BTW

I have always been confused by the access to phone support, during the 1st 90 days I have extra support I understand that but after that 90 days if I don't purchase Apple care can I still call Apple and get support on issues dealing with the phone and can I do that as long as I own the phone? I'm confused. I know with my 11 I was able to use phone support after the 90 days, but am not sure if there is a different thing with the Apple Care (speaking ONLY of phone support, not physical repairs. Asking the same question on Apple community page.

(Getting real good answers at Apple community, but curious what others think)
 
Last edited:

Bawstun

Suspended
Jun 25, 2009
2,374
2,999
There is something wrong with Apple batteries and they’ve still not fixed it. Y’all ever notice that when charging, they tend to stick on the 9’s?

For instance, it will hang at 9%, 19%, 29%, etc. and seem to stay there for a really long time, sometimes the phone even becomes hot. I can even unplug the charge while hanging on a “9” and 9 times out of 10 it will move to the next percent as soon as you unplug the device from charging, the exact moment that you remove the charger. So if your phone is hanging at 19%, unplug the charger and you can watch it jump to 20% right before your eyes.

They also seem to hang at 31%, 33%, 42% and a couple of others. It’s the same percent to where the phones used to turn themselves off during iPhone 6/6+ batterygate. Phones would hit 33% during use and then shut off as if they had died. They fixed the software problem of the phone turning itself off, but you can still watch the charge hang at that particular percentage. I wonder what causes it.
 

FreakinEurekan

macrumors 603
Sep 8, 2011
5,550
2,607
Thanks for reminding me of charging techniques. My phone is now 50 days old and is at 97%, but I do use it as follows: avg screen on per day 5 h 17 mn avg screen off 1h 20 mn...and usually 2 hours of that is LIVE streaming on YT which I know drains the battery much quicker, at least it does on mine (Live streaming being the difference, hopefully someone will confirm this for me.)

I have traditionally charged it in the middle of the day at around 50% because while it probably would last till that night what if I lose power, which where I live can be an issue (but not that often really, just that when it happens you always wish you had done this and that.)

If I do not charge it during the day and wait till that night, most of the time anyway, maybe that would preserve the battery? I dont know, I also dont know if I get it too hot, I dont think I do.

I dont care if I have to replace the battery in a year and pay for it if that means I have the original full capacity, for instance if my battery is at 88% after a year, like my 11 was, I would rather get a new battery than a new phone.

Thanks...

BTW

I have always been confused by the access to phone support, during the 1st 90 days I have extra support I understand that but after that 90 days if I don't purchase Apple care can I still call Apple and get support on issues dealing with the phone and can I do that as long as I own the phone? I'm confused. I know with my 11 I was able to use phone support after the 90 days, but am not sure if there is a different thing with the Apple Care (speaking ONLY of phone support, not physical repairs. Asking the same question on Apple community page.

(Getting real good answers at Apple community, but curious what others think)
You can call phone support any time, at least up until the device is VIN (discontinued 5+ years). But as long as the battery is reporting over 80%, it’s “Passing” as far as Apple is concerned.
 

ctjack

macrumors 65816
Mar 8, 2020
1,362
1,401
I had this glitch. What worked for me on Apple devices is switching off optimized battery charging in settings, drain to 0 and charge to 100% - do the same 2-3 times and it shows 100% again.
Apparently optimized keeps battery undercharged if you have hectic charging schedule, and then your controller starts thinking that your 80% is your max battery(100%).
Though I didn't research the effect on actual battery time but I disliked odd number with a fresh device so had to get rid of it.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.