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Have One of These 16 Apple Devices? Software Support Ends This Fall

ChrisA said:
I've been buying 2014 Mac Minis. You can get them between $50 and $120, depending on specs. Then replace macOS with Proxmox, and you have a very capable small server that will be supported with updates until the end of time. The 2014 Mini used an Intel i5 and up to 16Gb of RAM and a 256GB SSD. This is still usable today.
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It costs more in electricity over a year. Unless electricity is cheap where you are I wouldn't do it.
 
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Im surprised the iPad Air 3 held on as long as it did lol. My kids still use them but they are definitely feeling long in the tooth and definitely slowed down on ipados26.
 
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Taq'aix said:
Why? The AWU2 is getting watchOS 27. Replacing perfectly capable hardware every three years because the calendar says so is peak consumerism and makes zero sense.
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He didn’t say “3 years passed, therefore replace it.” He speculated 3 years may be the point at which there’s a meaningful enough hardware upgrade to justify replacing it.

Calling that “peak consumerism” is absurd. That’s not even consumerism on a mound at sea level.
 
Whats-a-computer? said:
Some of these dont sound reasonable to me. Keeping the 2020 iPad Pro (A12Z) but dropping the nearly identical 2018 iPad Pro (A12X)…
I dont like it.
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this is because the 2018 iPad Pro is the best product apple has released in a decade, so many more people have just kept it instead of upgrading and they've had enough it seems.

I won't be buying an iPad or Apple Watch again.
 
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SmugMaverick said:
this is because the 2018 iPad Pro is the best product apple has released in a decade, so many more people have just kept it instead of upgrading and they've had enough it seems.

I won't be buying an iPad or Apple Watch again.
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I've been deeply disapointed with my Ultra 2. It started out great, and the experience just got worse and worse.

My 2018 iPad Pro on the other hand has been in daily use since I bought in the fall of 2019, a month before the A12Z version was released.

It's been a good run.

Apple has been slowly alienating me; and recently the ads in the pro-apps for their monthly subscription counterparts was the most off-putting. Second to that was the weird nag screens in the previous version of iWork apps (or whatever they're called now) overtly cutting off access to features (like collaboration). There's been some disagreement on that reality, but the end result is the same: the squeezing of their customer base in unpleasant ways. Maybe I just woke up and it's always been this way? It certainly feels more pointed.

Also, knowing the entire world is ram-and-gpu constrained they could have bought a lot of goodwill.

This feels exactly like the path Microsoft started down two decades earlier.

And the core reason I adopted Apple products (reluctantly) was Emagic Logic Audio. I eventually was swayed and drank the cool-aid. I've been poking at alternatives for the last two years. None-yet other than Cubase, and I'm certainly not going back to Windows/MS-land.

Two years ago, I switched to a linux desktop for work. It was largely without pain. Things aren't as pretty, but they work, and the limitations are my own.
 
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yoink said:
I've been deeply disapointed with my Ultra 2. It started out great, and the experience just got worse and worse.

My 2018 iPad Pro on the other hand has been in daily use since I bought in the fall of 2019, a month before the A12Z version was released.

It's been a good run.

Apple has been slowly alienating me; and recently the ads in the pro-apps for their monthly subscription counterparts was the most off-putting. Second to that was the weird nag screens in the previous version of iWork apps (or whatever they're called now) overtly cutting off access to features (like collaboration). There's been some disagreement on that reality, but the end result is the same: the squeezing of their customer base in unpleasant ways. Maybe I just woke up and it's always been this way? It certainly feels more pointed.

Also, knowing the entire world is ram-and-gpu constrained they could have bought a lot of goodwill.

This feels exactly like the path Microsoft started down two decades earlier.

And the core reason I adopted Apple products (reluctantly) was Emagic Logic Audio. I eventually was swayed and drank the cool-aid. I've been poking at alternatives for the last two years. None-yet other than Cubase, and I'm certainly not going back to Windows/MS-land.

Two years ago, I switched to a linux desktop for work. It was largely without pain. Things aren't as pretty, but they work, and the limitations are my own.
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I installed Linux on my M1 Pro MacBook Pro just for fun, and it actually runs very well. Even though it’s still a highly capable and powerful machine, macOS 28 may no longer support it, so I’ll likely switch to Linux.

Like you said, with the world facing ongoing semiconductor shortages, extending support for older devices (Yes...I know, they do support iPhone 11)would have generated a lot of goodwill for Apple. I know leaving the Apple ecosystem completely won’t be easy, but I hope that by next year I’ll be able to make the transition and move away from it entirely.
 
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Kottu said:
Even though it’s still a highly capable and powerful machine, macOS 28 may no longer support it, so I’ll likely switch to Linux.
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I highly doubt they will go from dropping the rest of Intel one year to dropping the first Apple Silicon chips the next. That would look really bad.
 
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!!! said:
What exactly is so demanding about the new watchOS that it drops so many still decent watches? I don't recall anything even being announced at WWDC for the watch.
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They don’t have the onboard neural processing introduced in the Series 9. It’s used mainly for on device voice transcription, I believe. My series 8 has to send my voice commands to the cloud for transcription.
 
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