HBO Max Coming to Six European Countries in October

[Hicksmat1976]

there is no way the sky output is the same as HBO Max, no chance. Its true we might be the HBO produced stuff, but after that, we don't get the rest of the content on SKY UK

 

[yaxomoxay]

Now we are going back to the situation where media is so scattered along services that it’s becoming filthy expensive to watch what I want.

Just cycle through them. You are just making excuses for piracy.

 

[Jeaz]

Wondering if HBO Max will simply replace HBO Nordic (which I currently subscribe to)?

It will. HBO Nordic will be gone. As for how any price increases will effect you, we will have to wait and see.

 

[Saebah]

I read this a lot, but sorry, it just sounds like an excuse.

There was no mythical time when streaming services first appeared and one or two services gave you access to all media.

Back then, we got maybe 20% of all content and complained that the rest wasn't being sold (so we "had to" pirate it). Now 80% of all content is available for sale (so we "have to" pirate it, because we actually didn't want to pay that much). (And somehow you're actually complaining about both at the same time here.)

If you want "all the stuff" and "right away" I think it's okay to ask you to pay a lot. That's how so many streaming services can thrive and why they're motivated to produce more AAA content than ever. If you don't need it right away, you can just subscribe to one service per month and binge everything at an extremely affordable price. That model has existed for ever in movies going from cinemas to rentals to TV. It means pricing based on demand.

Wanting both immediacy and a low price isn't a valid reason for piracy. It's just something to tell yourself to justify using that loophole.

Agree ! I would add that for all digital contents, if you consider it worth it, you have to pay to get access of it. If you consider this doesn't worth the money asked for, then you leave it and live without it. Not paying digital content yet getting them from "Alternative or Parallel" free method is simply stealing the product which is not fair for the creators of such products (authors, music bands, ...)

Internet let us "believe" that free commercial contents available on the web were given, but they are actually stolen.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm lost with all these streaming services and yet, all of them are proposing few interesting things, I consider their offers are not interesting so I just stick with ATV+ which comes as bundle in my subscription and purchase times to times movie and TV shows the full price when I think they're good enough for my money.

 

[maxfromdenmark]

You forgot Liechtenstein: 8! 😀

we have also Monaco and San Marino on the list

 

[Marshall73]

They need to get it out in the UK fk sky.

 

[Wafles]

I read this a lot, but sorry, it just sounds like an excuse.

You missed the point. In the beginning there were only a few streaming services and if you had a subscription to them, you could see most content. Now we’re getting to a point where every studio has its own service and walled off garden. Imagine if every music label started having their own streaming service and you had to subscribe to 7 different music services to listen to all the artists you enjoy.

 

[yaxomoxay]

In the beginning there were only a few streaming services and if you had a subscription to them, you could see most content.

Not true. You could see most of THEIR content. Exactly as today. I couldn't watch lots of stuff on Netflix or Hulu because they didn't have it. The same applies today, we simply have more choices.

Now we’re getting to a point where every studio has its own service and walled off garden. Imagine if every music label started having their own streaming service and you had to subscribe to 7 different music services to listen to all the artists you enjoy.

First of all, you don't have to subscribe to multiple services. It's a free choice, based on your priorities and wants. You also have the option of subscribing to all of them at once or simply cycle through them (as I do). I don't know if you remember, but for quite a while the only way to watch what we liked was to spend $20 on a VHS/DVD, and that was for one single movie. Now with $15 you can watch and re-watch multiple movies, TV series etc. so your complaint about good ol' times is utterly misleading at best.

Comparing Video content to Music is also pretty asinine. They are two different business, with different people involved, different target audiences, different markets, and different distribution rights and methods, and more importantly different production costs.

The bottom line, is that for what concerns morality and the law, you're stealing.

 

[Wafles]

Not true. You could see most of THEIR content. Exactly as today. I couldn't watch lots of stuff on Netflix or Hulu because they didn't have it. The same applies today, we simply have more choices.

What are you on about? A lot of Disney media was on Netflix before. Now it’s on their own service. The only extra ‘choice’ that came from this, is the choice to subscribe to yet another service.

Comparing Video content to Music is also pretty asinine. They are two different business, with different people involved, different target audiences, different markets, and different distribution rights and methods.

It’s completely comparable… ‘Different people involved’ ok and?

The bottom line, is that for what concern morality and the law, you're stealing.

Oh no! How will [multi billion Dollar corporation dodging taxes] survive! I feel so bad.

 

[yaxomoxay]

What are you on about? A lot of Disney media was on Netflix before. Now it’s on their own service. The only extra ‘choice’ that came from this, is the choice to subscribe to yet another service.

Again, you could see most of their content: what was available. It wasn't everything or even the vast majority of what was produced (and I am not even going into indie stuff). Now you have to pay $7/mo for Disney. Oh poor soul, how can you survive this outrageous price for a hundred years of content.
By the way, they didn't have "a lot of Disney media". They had barely the surface of it. Virtually all the classics were missing (movies and animated movies). Making excuses.

Oh no! How will [multi billion Dollar corporation dodging taxes] survive! I feel so bad.

What an ignorant comment. First of all, you have no right to steal; it doesn't matter if the company is a multi-billion dollar company, or just a mom and pop shop. The amount of money they make doesn't authorize you from stealing.

Second, if you put it on the Robin Hood morality, why don't you go steal at a Walmart? They are a multi-billion dollar company, right? Oh, because you know you have to show your face in order to do so. Your moral judgment is quite skewed.

Third, your ignorance on how things work is quite sad. You think that you're damaging big corps? No, you're damaging the thousands of hourly employees that work on movies, and their distribution. You're damaging low-profit movies. You're damaging artistic creation. Do you think that Disney (corporation) will lose a penny? No, they will just do less low-profit movies, and they will do more Marvel stuff. They will pay for less indie stuff, and they will take less risks. They will save on stuff, and layoff people. All the money you steal from them, is money that Disney will not spend on riskier stuff. Find out how a movie is actually made please.

And please, don't give me the "oh they're bad" crap at the same time you complain you can't get their amazing products immediately for a low price. You just want to steal their products and feel morally justified in doing so; just say so.

 

[contacos]

People upset that HBO isn’t in their country should be upset with their government, not HBO. It’s red tape from governments that hold things up.

huh? Not really. It’s because HBO licensed all their constant to SKY until 2025

 

[Wafles]

Second, if you put it on the Robin Hood morality, why don't you go steal at a Walmart? They are a multi-billion dollar company, right? Oh, because you know you have to show your face in order to do so.

Imagine getting this upset online over someone watching a movie for free. Sheesh brother, leave some boot for the rest of us.

 

[yaxomoxay]

Imagine getting this upset online over someone watching a movie for free.

I am not upset at all. I am just pointing out how misleading and wrong - even from the historical perspective - your comments are... all because you don't want to pay your dues (to then complain about corporation not paying the taxes that in your opinion they should pay).

Sheesh brother, leave some boot for the rest of us.

I don't condone stealing.

 

[Tanax]

Holy ****, Sweden really? We're never amongst the first with these stuff....

 

[ruka.snow]

They need to get it out in the UK fk sky.

No thanks, we don't need content split over even more providers.

 

[Robotti]

HBO nordic has been around for years, wonder if this simply isn't a rebranding and that's why those countries gets HBO Max first in Europe. Anyways, it'll be interesting to see if HBO Max adds any value compared to HBO Nordic.

There was an interview of the regional director in today’s news and she said that it’s a completely new service, new tech, new app and new categories including Warner Bros, DC, Cartoon Network, HBO and HBO Max Original.

 

[soaddk]

Wondering if HBO Max will simply replace HBO Nordic (which I currently subscribe to)?

You should have gotten an email from HBO Nordic explaining this. Maybe check your spam-folder.

(Yes - you will automatically be converted into HBO Max subscriber on October 26th)

 

[aknabi]

In the beginning of media being available online, I used to fly the Jolly Roger as it were. Then streaming services came in and I started paying a monthly fee to 1 or 2 services happily for easy access to media. Now we are going back to the situation where media is so scattered along services that it’s becoming filthy expensive to watch what I want. Let alone the fact that I have found a lot of content to be just unavailable through any paid service where I live, actually impossible to watch it legally.

I now find myself going back to flying the ’ol 🏴‍☠️ more frequently. Life is a circle it seems.

Yup... I really like paying for content properly, but between juggling and sorting Smart DNS, VPNs, crappy apps, content switching providers and coming and going requiring subscribing to every single service costing way more than the old cable solutions and it's come to a point where it's just easier to give the legal and MBA media bozos the finger and torrenting content on the intertubes...