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I have an unlimited data plan with AT&T and with that I was able to choose a entertainment option (HBO, Spotify, etc.) at no extra cost and went with HBO. Does that mean I will be upgraded to HBO Max for free?
 
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I'm still confused as to why there needs to be both an "HBO Now" and an "HBO Max". What the hell is the difference? If they're the same price, why not just get rid of "HBO Now" and make "HBO Max" the new service? Why do they have to do it this way?

And people wonder why folks are frustrated by streaming services. Not only are there too many of them, but now the same company has multiple ones with the same content!

I wouldn’t be surprised if content was split between the two with very little overlap. Making you pay for both to cover all hbo content. IMHO its just a way for them to double their money from the content.
 
Cord cutting is being killed off. It's like their trying to corral people back into cable TV. After all the monthly subscription fees and internet service, I pay as much for Cable and a couple of premium channels as I would for cutting the cord.

Why do you not get HBO Max if you subscribe to HBO through cable? Seems like you get HBO Max for every other HBO subscription except through cable.
 
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Cord cutting is being killed off. It's like their trying to corral people back into cable TV. After all the monthly subscription fees and internet service, I pay as much for Cable and a couple of premium channels as I would for cutting the cord.

Why do you not get HBO Max if you subscribe to HBO through cable? Seems like you get HBO Max for every other HBO subscription except through cable.
Cord cutting is still a viable savings option. Just need to choose what you want to watch and how. Yes, if you subscribe lots of places then might as well have traditional cable. Many of the providers now want a piece of the streaming business.
 
Is there any benefit/downside to getting HBO through Hulu as opposed to direct? I want to be able to watch it on my firestick as well as my ATV, so I don't want to limit myself to Apple billing. Also I'd prefer to have one less charge each month, so I was thinking Hulu would be a good consolidation point.
 
Is there any benefit/downside to getting HBO through Hulu as opposed to direct? I want to be able to watch it on my firestick as well as my ATV, so I don't want to limit myself to Apple billing. Also I'd prefer to have one less charge each month, so I was thinking Hulu would be a good consolidation point.
If you use the HBO Now app with Apple billing, you can still use HBO Now on non-Apple platforms. You just need to login to the same HBO account that is linked to your Apple subscription. Note that this is not possible if you subscribe to the HBO channel within the TV app.

With regard to subscribing though Hulu, I'm not a fan of this because it means you cannot independently unsubscribe from Hulu or pause your subscription if you run out of things you want to watch there.
 
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I'm still confused as to why there needs to be both an "HBO Now" and an "HBO Max". What the hell is the difference? If they're the same price, why not just get rid of "HBO Now" and make "HBO Max" the new service? Why do they have to do it this way?

And people wonder why folks are frustrated by streaming services. Not only are there too many of them, but now the same company has multiple ones with the same content!

It's history. Hopefully in a few years all these intermediates will go away.
Basically you have

HBO - olden times, a cable TV channel(s)
HBO Go - a way for people paying for cableTV HBO to get the same content on their streaming devices
HBO Now - a way for people who don't WANT cable TV, to pay for the same stuff as HBO and HBO Go.

All that's the past (and hopefully dies the same slow death as cable TV). What's new is

HBO Max - basically think of this as TimeWarner Plus, their equivalent of Disney Plus. So it's all of the previous HBO, along with pretty much everything else that TimeWarner owns/controls, like Cartoon Network, CNN, DC, TNT, plus some other stuff they could license.

So essentially we're seeing a round of streaming service consolidation.
One set of "channels" gets bundled into Disney Plus.
Now another set into HBO Max aka TimeWarner Plus.
Maybe soon a Comcast Plus and a Viacom Plus?

It's all kinda a mess right now (eg although Disney recently acquired Fox, the Fox content on Disney Plus is all over the place). Comcast has, eg, XFinity, but can't decide if what they are selling is XFinity (kinda sorta a brand for "look how great our internet service is") vs Peacock (a more standard content brand). Also they haven't yet figured out that what they should be selling is not Peacock (which is basically NBC) but Comcast Plus (which includes Sky, Telemundo, Cozi [lots old stuff from 50s, 60s]).

So basically to simplify:

Disney, always first and smartest, introduces Disney Plus.

TimeWarner, not quite idiots [The ATT part is braindead, Time Warner close, but HBO is the real intelligence], copies this idea with HBO Max.

Next is probably Viacom.

And last of all, dragged kicking and streaming into the 2020s sometime around 2030 will Comcast, always the stupidest of the lot. (There is a reason they were portrayed the way they were on 30 Rock.)
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I am actually surprised because I thought a big part of HBO Max was for HBO to not lose money on the channel add ons.

HBO Go (cable subscribers, no Max content)
HBO Max (HBO's new stand alone service with extra content)
HBO Now (the channel add ons through Amazon/Apple), would not include Max content

HBO takes a big hit when people subscribe as a channel add on. Amazon/Apple take something like 30% of the price. HBO Max would only be through HBO and push people away from channel add ons/HBO Go thus letting them keep more of the money.

This new news makes me wonder why the hell is going on haha.

Don't confuse two different things:

(a) Why is HBO creating a new brand HBO Max? I answered that above.

(B) Why this change to allow Apple billing? The answer to that is almost certainly the same as the with Amazon Prime.

Apple created a deal whereby if a content provider doesn't just run on Apple devices but implements (and implements PROPERLY) every UI feature that Apple thinks is important (right now that includes things like getting the Apple TV UI right [lots of free-ish Apple TV content apps like Kanopy and Hoopla screw this up], integration into the Apple TV main TV app, full support for content indexing, ...)
THEN Apple will charge them substantially less than the usual 30% cut.

Details here, including why this is a win-win deal for both Apple and Amazon (and now, probably, TimeWarner).
 
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Since I just cut my cable cord, I've been sleuthing around at various options. Has anyone signed up for this HBO Max deal? If you purchase through HBO Max.com, you get 12 months at $11.99 vs $14.99. Not a huge savings but hey, I can use that $36 savings elsewhere.

HBO Max is $3 cheaper thanks to limited-time pre-order offer

p.s.: many thanks to the erudite ones explaining the differences between all these ridiculous HBO clone names.

p.p.s: DO watch Chernobyl. It's exceptional as is the cast.
 
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Since I just cut my cable cord, I've been sleuthing around at various options. Has anyone signed up for this HBO Max deal? If you purchase through HBO Max.com, you get 12 months at $11.99 vs $14.99. Not a huge savings but hey, I can use that $36 savings elsewhere.

HBO Max is $3 cheaper thanks to limited-time pre-order offer

p.s.: many thanks to the erudite ones explaining the differences between all these ridiculous HBO clone names.

p.p.s: DO watch Chernobyl. It's exceptional as is the cast.

Thanks for this, we were waiting to be finished with watching some other things to order our subscription to catch up on the new Westworld season, so this will effectively get us a couple of months free for the year.
 
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It’s interesting... I just got this email from Apple TV, and it seems to imply that you’ll need to watch HBO Max content in the HBO Max app.

Hope that’s not true.
 

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It’s interesting... I just got this email from Apple TV, and it seems to imply that you’ll need to watch HBO Max content in the HBO Max app.

Hope that’s not true.

Yea, no kidding. What is the point of fracturing their content? There is now what, 3 ways to get HBO? Go, Now, Max.

They need to be more clear on what Max even is.
 
It’s interesting... I just got this email from Apple TV, and it seems to imply that you’ll need to watch HBO Max content in the HBO Max app.

Hope that’s not true.
Do you have the HBO channel subscription inside the TV app? If yes, that is actually a welcome surprise, since their press release didn't mention that it included Max. It would of course be a bit annoying if you had to switch apps to watch the additional content, but not the end of the world.
 
Do you have the HBO channel subscription inside the TV app? If yes, that is actually a welcome surprise, since their press release didn't mention that it included Max. It would of course be a bit annoying if you had to switch apps to watch the additional content, but not the end of the world.

I got the same email and subscribe to the HBO Apple TV channel. If I have to use an app for HBO Max, it would bother me a bit.
 
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Do you have the HBO channel subscription inside the TV app? If yes, that is actually a welcome surprise, since their press release didn't mention that it included Max. It would of course be a bit annoying if you had to switch apps to watch the additional content, but not the end of the world.
I do, yes.

Beyond the nuisance of needing to install and use yet another app, I’d primarily be bothered because the streaming quality of the HBO app is terrible. Watching HBO content in the Apple TV app has been a noticeable improvement (and the only reason I’m subscribing to HBO again).

For being the most expensive streaming service on the market, HBO really seems intent to consistently provide the worst experience. 😕
 
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I do, yes.

Beyond the nuisance of needing to install and use yet another app, I’d primarily be bothered because the streaming quality of the HBO app is terrible. Watching HBO content in the Apple TV app has been a noticeable improvement (and the only reason I’m subscribing to HBO again).
Yes, I have observed the same. It would of course be best if all HBO Max content could be played within the TV app.
 
It’s interesting... I just got this email from Apple TV, and it seems to imply that you’ll need to watch HBO Max content in the HBO Max app.

Hope that’s not true.
It has to do with the revised agreement HBO reached with Apple's subscribers.

WarnerMedia expands free HBO Max deal to HBO subscribers who pay through Apple’s services

I think Apple wanted their subscribers to know they would get the free upgrade to HBO Max when originally, that wasn't the plan from Warner.
 
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