I bought you a DVD / Do you want to rent a DVD? flow off my tongue, but I bought you a Blu-Ray / Do you want to rent a BD? just sounds wrong...its bad with HD DVD but not as bad...
HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray
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I bought you a DVD / Do you want to rent a DVD? flow off my tongue, but I bought you a Blu-Ray / Do you want to rent a BD? just sounds wrong...its bad with HD DVD but not as bad...
As a video producer, I would really like Blu-Ray to win this war. It is a superior technology that will be useful for backups (100GB on one disc) as well as HD video. The other thing to remember is that the new version of Encore CS3 will support burning Blu-Ray discs and I would assume that the new version of DVDSP will as well. When the ability to author Blu-Ray discs is availible the the average video guru and professional alike then you have to at least help this will become the standard.
JohnMC
JohnMC
G5Unit
macrumors 68020
Blu-ray is better on paper, but so is a PC, and macs still run better.
Can't resist: HD DVD is backed by Microcrap ... soft... sry. Has anything other than Windoze succeeded if Microsoft had a hand in it?
JohnMC
G5Unit
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Has anything ever succeeded with Sony behind it?
grapes911
Moderator emeritu
PS1, PS2, Walkman, Discman, CD, DVD, 3.5 inch floppy disk, . . . the list goes on and on.
ZorPrime
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Good points on the audio. Codecs like E-AC-3 are required, according to the HD DVD spec, but the reality is that even HD DVD players currently on the market do not meet the HD DVD spec, as codecs like Dolby TruHD require HDMI 1.3 or its equivalent type of interface. Many Blu-Ray features are "open" and haven't been written in stone yet, but having large data bit-rates is more times than not a bad thing.
HDi does many things BD-J does, and vice versa, but there's one thing i think will serve to BD-J's advantage... open source. Developers won't have to pay propriety type royalties to Sony, JVC, or Sun to use the technology. HDi is proprietary betroven to Toshiba and Microsoft.
zap2
macrumors 604
I'm think about picking up an HDDVD player...Amazon has one for 290, and once my HDTV is fix I'll be able to use it!
Not to mention buy a Toshiba HD DVD player before July 07 and get 5 free HD DVDs
http://www.thelookandsoundofperfect.com/_pdf/perfectoffer_advert.pdf
Not to mention buy a Toshiba HD DVD player before July 07 and get 5 free HD DVDs
http://www.thelookandsoundofperfect.com/_pdf/perfectoffer_advert.pdf
bigandy
macrumors G3
...despite the fact that HD DVD doesn't have as many movies (by far) available, Blu-Ray has more space (200Gb discs), BR has a larger market share, it's far easier to get hold of consumer recording equipment (HD DVD's is non existant), in fact, one of the best advantages of BR is that you can walk in to a shop and buy a blank disc that's the same capacity as the ones the studios use, and you can burn it yourself. BR was designed from the start with consumer recording in mind, HD DVD has it as an afterthought. and it shows - HD DVD recordable discs aren't of great capacity.
zap2
macrumors 604
...despite the fact that HD DVD doesn't have as many movies (by far) available, Blu-Ray has more space (200Gb discs), BR has a larger market share, it's far easier to get hold of consumer recording equipment (HD DVD's is non existant), in fact, one of the best advantages of BR is that you can walk in to a shop and buy a blank disc that's the same capacity as the ones the studios use, and you can burn it yourself. BR was designed from the start with consumer recording in mind, HD DVD has it as an afterthought. and it shows - HD DVD recordable discs aren't of great capacity.
Blue-Ray does NOT have a bigger market share....not in the USA(your in scottland, so I'm assuming it different)
I have yet to see a 200GB Blue-Ray disk in use anywhere...let alone for sale. The only BR disk I've seen for sale were 25Gbs, but then again I haven't really look.
Personal I can't find a use for a 200Gb disk(yet) movie don't take up that much space, and what would you be backing up on a 200GB disk? A harddrive or 2?
If you really want disk space get Tapestry Media...300Gbs on one disk, coming out mid 2007
Also do you have a source of total amount of titles on each format?
G5Unit
macrumors 68020
...despite the fact that HD DVD doesn't have as many movies (by far) available, Blu-Ray has more space (200Gb discs), BR has a larger market share, it's far easier to get hold of consumer recording equipment (HD DVD's is non existant), in fact, one of the best advantages of BR is that you can walk in to a shop and buy a blank disc that's the same capacity as the ones the studios use, and you can burn it yourself. BR was designed from the start with consumer recording in mind, HD DVD has it as an afterthought. and it shows - HD DVD recordable discs aren't of great capacity.
Because everyone want's to walk into a store right now and buy a Blu-ray recorder for about 1000 dollars.
bigandy
macrumors G3
50Gb BR Media. 200Gb is on it's way out.
Blu Ray has more releases. HD DVD has caught up since I last saw lists, but it's still behind, slightly. But then that makes sense, doesn't it.. considering their lack studio support compared with BR.
And it's quite a downer for HD DVD if you ask me, not having their recorders on the shelves. Wouldn't you agree? If you're needing a HD recorder, and can only find one format, which one are you going to buy?
These format wars are all about what's available. HD DVD is slightly lagging in available titles, and you can't get recorders or large capacity media right now.
Blu Ray has slightly more titles, the support of the PS3, more studios, recorders and media available.
Plus, over here, it looks like Blu Ray. HD DVD is consistently non-existant. It's like the HD DVD camp aren't making an effort outside of the US/Japan.
Danger! Will
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I hope HD-DVD wins...It cost less...my tv is only 1080/720p
Besides sony has such a good reputation for quality..and great innovative products such as betamax, digital audio tape, mini-disc, and atrac.
Besides sony has such a good reputation for quality..and great innovative products such as betamax, digital audio tape, mini-disc, and atrac.
ZorPrime
macrumors regular
i don't understand...
you have a tv that has both 1080 and 720 pixel densities and can modulate between the two? what's the SKU/Model Number and Brand? I want one!I've worked in broadcast for 10 years; BetaSP and BetaCam were the standards for the Pros, better video and audio quality in addition to resilience. Don't know of any TV shows filmed and broadcasted in VHS. The problem this time around between HD DVD and Blu Ray, in terms of consumer level application, is that they are pretty much the same visually. This makes it hard for the consumer to pick the "better" brand outside of content and opinion toward the companies pushing their respective formats. Unlike the differences between VHS and BetaMax... BetaMax had a better picture and sound... VHS had the content and by the time longer play tapes were available it was too late for the Beta format in consumer level home video market.
This time around, it's about content. There are at least four studios which are exclusively releasing content only for Blu-Ray and others commited to releasing in both. There is only one studio, which is exclusive to HD DVD... Universal. Content is King and as the price of Blu-Ray players drops bellow 500, which will happen this year, more people will be adopting Blu-Ray players to go with their fancy new HDTVs. I've posted this earlier, so please forgive me being a broken record, but I don't like Microsoft, what they stand for and what they did to the Apple/Mac, and therefore would rather Sony and JVC win this one.
Danger! Will
macrumors regular
Guess the i makes a difference my tv is 720p/1080i or 540p depends on how you look at it...
zap2
macrumors 604
50Gb...like I thought...but then again I don't remeber anyone using triple layer HD-DVD, so Blue-Ray is stilll wining in size.
Also I saw blank HD DVDs for the first time today in staples...right next to the 25Gb blue-ray disk
ZorPrime
macrumors regular
Blu-ray standard already being altered
Hmm new standard for Blu-ray..
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/04/03/blu-ray_standard_already_being_altered/
http://www.dailytech.com/Bluray+Disc+Specification+Change+Threatens+Current+Players/article6702.htm
Hmm new standard for Blu-ray..
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/04/03/blu-ray_standard_already_being_altered/
http://www.dailytech.com/Bluray+Disc+Specification+Change+Threatens+Current+Players/article6702.htm
I love it when early adopters whine when things are made better. New standards mean new consumers, which mean more movies for you. You paid a premium to enjoy HDTV movies before the rest of us, so quit whining. I hope they do change the standard! Too bad they are going to use a crappy language like Java. Still, if Java is good enough for cell phone games running at 4 frames per second I guess a much more powerful CPU in a BD player can handle it.
Still, if Java is good enough for cell phone games running at 4 frames per second I guess a much more powerful CPU in a BD player can handle it. I love it when early adopters whine when things are made better. New standards mean new consumers, which mean more movies for you. You paid a premium to enjoy HDTV movies before the rest of us, so quit whining. I hope they do change the standard! Too bad they are going to use a crappy language like Java.
I don't whine.
don't even have any HDTV, I did just post the news.
zap2
macrumors 604
I love it when early adopters whine when things are made better. New standards mean new consumers, which mean more movies for you. You paid a premium to enjoy HDTV movies before the rest of us, so quit whining. I hope they do change the standard! Too bad they are going to use a crappy language like Java.
Still is that good for Blue-Ray as a whole? Will the PS3 still be able to play Blue-Ray disk? That a huge selling point of it..or will Sony upgrade so new one can, but the old one(that people already own) won't be able to watch them. Edit- looks like because the PS3 is also a "computer" basicly, it will be fine. I should read the whole article the post!
I think its a bad idea...stick to your guns. Blue-Ray is starting to gain market share, they keep outselling HD DVD, there isn't a need to screw with it
princealfie
macrumors 68030
What about Apple supporting Blu-Ray? Hmm...
Speaking only for myself, of course, I have to agree that content is king as I, personally, do not currently see much of a difference between HD DVD and Blue Ray (BR) images (from the little comparisons I have been exposed to). As such, there are movies that I would like to have that are, currently, only found on HD DVD and some on BR. At the moment I have gone with HD DVD simply because I own an XBOX 360, thus the associated HD DVD player was by far the cheaper route to go. Plus many of the movies for HD DVD are currently less expensive than BR, which means a lot to me. Additionally, to my untrained eye the HD DVD images, compared to DVD, look fantastic on my Sony HDTV, even over component cables.
Nevertheless, as noted there are still titles that are at the moment exclsive to BR that I would like to have. As such I will most likely wait until those movies are either available for HD DVD or when I can invest in either an "inexpensive" BR or a dual format player.
Content is currently king for me...
Nevertheless, as noted there are still titles that are at the moment exclsive to BR that I would like to have. As such I will most likely wait until those movies are either available for HD DVD or when I can invest in either an "inexpensive" BR or a dual format player.
Content is currently king for me...
I don't whine.
don't even have any HDTV, I did just post the news.
That wasn't for you, giganten.. it was for the poster who posted the stuff about how people will be screwed when their players can't play the Java discs. Supposedly that only effects some early Samsungs, but I've only heard this and not researched it myself.