Headphone to Lightning Cord?

Discussion in 'iPhone Accessories' started by C.clavin, Jan 9, 2016.

  1. C.clavin macrumors member

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    I own a higher-end headphone, and the cord detaches from the set completely on both ends. I wonder if it's possible that the manufacturer/someone could make a 1/8" (from headphones) to lightning port. I wouldn't think it'd be that hard.
     
  2. chabig, Jan 9, 2016
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    Yes, that should be possible, but I don't expect Bose to do it.
     
  3. jasie02 macrumors 6502a

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    For audiophile, I will wait, if Apple really eliminated 3.5mm audio out, and allow/push more digital output audio, it will definitely open up market for more digital headphone/headset. DAC/amp will be placed next to ear by speakers so minimum power is needed to drive DAC and short distant will also draw less power to drive headphone speaker, not to mention eliminated noise/interference between iPhone and headset, since it is all digital. Almost like BT headset except it has wire for proprietary/Apple-certificaiton digital connection from iPhone to headphone/headset.

    Philips has one already, but I will wait for other Audiophile company to follow.
     
  4. Mr. Buzzcut macrumors 65816

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    Not possible. At least not with a cord. You'd need a converter box in the middle to take the digital audio from the phone, convert it to analog, amplify it, then feed it to your headphones.
     
  5. jasie02 macrumors 6502a

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    Bose is not an "high-end" audio company, it is an "high-price" audio company, though. Other than cancellation technology, they spend more money on marketing than perfecting to provide great audio "sounding" speakers to use in headset/headphone.

    If noise cancellation is what you "need", sound is distance 2nd, go for it. If high-end audio sounds, with wide sound stage, clean incredible pin-point detail, clean non-booming bass, and deep deep bass extension, is what you looking for, there are better option for same or less price.
     
  6. Mr. Buzzcut macrumors 65816

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    The resistance of the cable will still affect the dc power to the phones. And you can't hear any interference that might otherwise affect an unamplified, unbalanced audio signal.

    Unless Apple plans a price cut on the phone, I'd say they owe us a top quality DAC internal that should easily outperform anything built in to all but the most expensive headphones.
     
  7. jasie02 macrumors 6502a

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    Try:
    http://www.amazon.com/Philips-M2L-27-Headphones-Lightning/dp/B00V4X6QGY

    I will wait for other audiophile company to come up with digital headset.
     
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    There won't be any normal analog audio signal between iPhone to DAC of digital headset, if it is digital. It is all digital signal. Resistance does not matter as much as analog in digital world.

    DAC will be depend on the headphone maker, not Apple.
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    One thing you can bet on is if apple leaves us with noting except the Lightning outlet on the 7, you can bet they and many other will be there to cash in.
     
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  12. thatanonymoususer macrumors regular

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    You're not going to find one without an amp, but there are a few options:

    A full-on case:
    https://www.ampaudio.com/

    The most portable product that I've seen so far (but not out yet) comes in the form of a kickstarter for a portable amplifier from Nexium:
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/311770269/aqua-worlds-lightest-headphone-amplifier
    http://www.molu-aqua.com/

    If you have a true audiophile set of headphones, you'll just want to go all out to get quality over portability:
    http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-DAC-HA200-Converter-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B00N1SCNV2

    I'll go ahead and reference this article from when the lightning connector was first coming out. It states (along with some other sites) that the lighting to 30-pin adapter contains a DAC in the converter itself because the new lightning connector only outputs digital audio, but the 30-pin supported analog. This means that no matter what, you'll need something beefier than just a cable to do the conversion. Apple's lightning dock with the 3.5mm jack out also has a DAC to do the same thing.

    This is true for a number of reasons that you can see paralleled in digital video cables. Since USB-C uses the DisplayPort protocol, you can find simple pin-swap cables to connect DisplayPort devices, but if you want to do the same thing with HDMI, you'll need to get a blocky adapter. All of those box-like adapters have a digital converter to convert between the HDMI and DisplayPort protocols.

    Another example is an HDMI to DVI cable. Since HDMI is just DVI with audio and extra features, they can just make a pin-swap cable to connect HDMI devices to DVI.
     
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    I will stick with wireless or at least wait till the have wired digital headphones with the lightning cable. The above adds too much bulk to carry around for the day or run with.
     
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  16. john g., Jan 15, 2016
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    You are correct.

    I meant to post this link:

    https://www.audeze.com/products/el-8-collection/el-8-titanium

    A video:



    Cipher Cable
    A complete 24-bit high-resolution
    integrated AMP/DSP/DAC with Lightning
    connector.
     
  17. Mr. Buzzcut macrumors 65816

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    Closer but still not what the OP requested since these are proprietary Audeze. And there is a converter in the middle as I said would be needed. It will be interesting what these end up costing when they are made generic to work with any headphones, and more importantly, what the sound quality and output power will be compared to the iPhone's internal jack.
     
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    You are hilarious.
     
  21. okboy macrumors regular

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    In what way?
     
  22. okboy macrumors regular

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    Wondering what you mean.
     

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