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Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by Full of Win, Feb 26, 2008.
They can stick it as far as I care.
Better pony up for the 6MB then. Or just not buy it at all. Maybe you should email Steve Jobs and tell him to completely change his hardware profile so he can fit your supposed 'needs'? Or better yet, maybe you can get a free macbook pro for your mental anguish?
I find it not only comical, but a little facist how they "entice" people to the midrange of a product line.
The fact of the matter is people that any business that offers tiered products of the same model, DO NOT want you purchasing the base model of the line. It simply exists to make you want the mid range, which is the target product.
If they get a few suckers to buy the high end then that is icing on thier cake.
You have to understand marketing and business in general...
two words...BASE MODEL
To me a 25% reduction in the memory, and an extra 500$ to get to the next level is a big deal.
you get more for your 500 than you did before, you also get a larger harddrive now
Yes, to you. Good thing the world doesn't revolve around any single individual, or companies like AAPL would never get anything done. They'd be fully redesigning every 6 months like you'd prefer. You already have an MBP (judging by your post) so get good use out of it and stop being so greedy.
2.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
MacBook Pro 15-inch Widescreen Display
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB
200GB Serial ATA @ 7200 rpm
SuperDrive 8X (DVD+/-R DL/DVD+/-RW/CD-RW)
Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English
Enjoy! You lucky dog.... (grumbles).
Good pickup. I didnt notice this right away, thx for posting. Seems a bit sneaky of Apple to do this.
Yeah what's that about?
Its about getting a cheaper price from Intel on processors... and it is sneaky..
I can see this person walking into a GM dealer and saying the same thing ... 4/6 cylinder, manual seats/windows on the BASE model -- stick it GM.
I would not say a thing if we could do a CPU only upgrade, but how they have it linked to the GPU and HD upgrade as well is crap. It like a car maker only offering automatic with the leather package upgrade.
It not an issue of cheapness but one of me being asked to do other upgrades that I do not need or want
Or you could look on the bright side, getting a bump to 2.4Ghz in a faster, more efficient processor at the cost of 1mb L2 cache, at the same price.
Of course manufacturers have upgrade "packages." They want you to buy all the upgrades rather than just one. It was the same way on the previous revision, don't see why anyone would expect it to change. Yes, I'm a little surprised that the base model doesn't come with the 2.5 but I can cope
how much difference does the L2 cache make?
Well, my PowerBook has 512KB in its L2 cache. No biggie.
Wait, so this is a downgrade of a facet of the base model?
The older version came with 4 MB?
What exactly does l2 cache do?
Worst case scenario the old edition are now $500 off
No the old editions are NOT 500$ off because the old editions came with 4MB of L2 cache.
And the OP is complaining because they took something away from the old base model. I fully agree with him: the higher models are not worth it for some people (like me) because you pay 25% more and get maybe 10% in performance. I hope apple didn't widen the gap too much by dropping the L2 cache. We'll find out when benchmarks are out I guess.
Cache memory is much faster to read and write to than your main memory. So, when you are running a program, if it can keep all the data in the cache, it will run much faster than if it has to constantly sit around and wait for main memory to produce the data it wants. When reading main memory, typically the cpu has to just sit around and wait because it takes so long that the processor runs out of other work to do. The bigger the cache the better. A 25% reduction can make a noticeable dent in performance, depending on what you are doing.
Calm down, dude. I didn't say they were $500 off because of the cache. That doesn't even make sense.
I was saying if you are buying the base model and thi g the old mid range model is better, then you can get it cheaper than you can get the current base model.
Also, thankx for the info Cmaier.
Aaaand . . . here we go! Reasons for all the waiters to now wait for the next great thing! I love this place!
The slight difference between 3MB cache and 4MB cache between the 2.4Ghz and 2.5Ghz processors is so minimal that it won't affect you at all in modern applications, unless you're running Photoshop with something like less than a gig of RAM, which really shouldn't come up.
This is like the uproar that's going to pop up when people realize the base model only has 256MB of graphics RAM. It won't matter anyways, because 256MB of RAM is more than enough to drive a monitor at 1440x900.
The new base model will perform as well if not better than the old mid-range MacBook Pro, and guess what? It's $500 cheaper. Have fun spending a ton more money for a very small increase in features. If I were buying one, the base model would be fine with me.
EDIT: Oh, but don't think I'm perfectly happy with them, however. Can anyone tell me whose smart decision it was to stop including the Apple Remote with both the MacBook Pro's and the MacBook's?
Oh ok, now THAT I would go for! Right now I'm completely undecided which product line to go with, and I'm (unfortunately) even considering some outside of apple.. although I'd much rather not go to Vista, ever. I think I might write up a little comparison in this section soon..