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Hello Steve? Anybody Home?

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WWDC used to be a Mac developer's conference.

Hello Apple? Anybody Home?

Anyone over there in Cupertino remember the Mac?

This year there wasn't a single Mac-related poster, and Steve Jobs didn't bother to spend any time in his speech talking about the Mac OS.

People who say that Apple is focused on anything but the money, are...
 
wirelessmacuser said:
WWDC used to be a Mac developer's conference.

Hello Apple? Anybody Home?

Anyone over there in Cupertino remember the Mac?

This year there wasn't a single Mac-related poster, and Steve Jobs didn't bother to spend any time in his speech talking about the Mac OS.

People who say that Apple is focused on anything but the money, are...
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You nailed it. iPhones and iPads are bringing in the money.
 
No one is home, heck they dont even make a Macintosh anymore.:( crippled mini vs all in one's vs way overpriced proline. Macintosh is dead. They dont want to make a Macintosh for the masses anymore. They want everyone peering into little screens hunched over hoping to make a network connection:eek:
 
Dont Hurt Me said:
No one is home, heck they dont even make a Macintosh anymore. ...
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Oh, please:rolleyes: The Macintosh line for the masses is the iMac. What do you want to do that you cannot do with the latest iMac? Apple's most recent MacBook Pro was released in April. It sounds like you want Apple's product line to have a median price of $50 with a new model to ogle every week.
 
MisterMe said:
Oh, please:rolleyes: The Macintosh line for the masses is the iMac. What do you want to do that you cannot do with the latest iMac? Apple's most recent MacBook Pro was released in April. It sounds like you want Apple's product line to have a median price of $50 with a new model to ogle every week.
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Mac Pro is long over due
ACD 30" the same

WWDC should be also about these products as those products are used by developers etc.
 
wirelessmacuser said:
Been reading long?

The point clearly stated, was the _fact_ that Steve Jobs ignored the developers & OS X during his keynote.
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We already knew it would be primary focused on iOS. You were just late to the party.

WWDC refers to the "Worldwide Developers Conference." This one happened to focus on one particular platform, iOS. It was only a Mac conference because that was the only thing they had that you could develop for. That has obviously changed.

The Mac isn't going anywhere. It just doesn't have the spotlight this year.

The keynote isn't really for developers, that is what all the sessions are for. Although there were many things that involved them.

1. A new device to develop for (which has quite a few new features)
2. Report on how much money the app store is bringing in
3. More clarification on the approval process
4. iAds, including figures on the amount of advertising dollars that have been spent before the service even launches.

But again, the developers aren't going to get anything of substance in the keynote, that isn't what it is for. They are there for the sessions and labs.
 
Gloor said:
Mac Pro is long over due
ACD 30" the same

WWDC should be also about these products as those products are used by developers etc.
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OK. Two questions:
  • What do you want to do that can't be done with at least one model of the Mac Pro?
  • What do you want to do that you can't do now the any current ACD?
 
MisterMe said:
OK. Two questions:
  • What do you want to do that can't be done with at least one model of the Mac Pro?
  • What do you want to do that you can't do now the any current ACD?
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Really? There's better technology out now than what's in the Mac Pro and it's cheaper. Yet you think the Mac Pro is fair since it will do most every computer act, maybe not as fast as it could but it still does it.


Despicable.
 
The WWDC will return to the Mac next year with the focus on 10.7. There's nothing to focus on this year as Snow Leopard had some attention last year but nothing to show off really. If 10.7 is really a user feature packed release, it'll have all the attention next year.
 
calderone said:
We already knew it would be primary focused on iOS. You were just late to the party.

WWDC refers to the "Worldwide Developers Conference." This one happened to focus on one particular platform, iOS. It was only a Mac conference because that was the only thing they had that you could develop for. That has obviously changed.

The Mac isn't going anywhere. It just doesn't have the spotlight this year.

The keynote isn't really for developers, that is what all the sessions are for. Although there were many things that involved them.

1. A new device to develop for (which has quite a few new features)
2. Report on how much money the app store is bringing in
3. More clarification on the approval process
4. iAds, including figures on the amount of advertising dollars that have been spent before the service even launches.

But again, the developers aren't going to get anything of substance in the keynote, that isn't what it is for. They are there for the sessions and labs.
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Nice Try, but no cigar.

The only people "late to the party" are those of you who are either new to the Apple ecosystem, or uninformed.

Since you seem to take pleasure in speaking like the voice of experience, here it is from another source.
http://www.maclife.com/article/feature/complete_history_wwdc_keynote

Once again I remind you the post was about the "Keynote". Hopefully you know what a keynote is.

Cheers... :)
 
MisterMe said:
OK. Two questions:
  • What do you want to do that can't be done with at least one model of the Mac Pro?
  • What do you want to do that you can't do now the any current ACD?
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ACD could be LED for example but lets leave ACD aside.

Mac Pro -

1) value for money
2) RENDERING!!!! - every core makes difference and every core cuts time. Take speed increase on top of that and you have what others might be after.

If I have scene that takes 4 days to render on 4 core Mac Pro then it will take 2 days to render on 8 core Mac Pro and so on. That is without taking better technology etc. into consideration (ie. 2008 xeon will be slower than 2010 xeon) so you get increase there too. As you can see, if I get my result faster then I can do more work in less time and so on.

It would be great if people like you who probably don't use these heavy proc. application would stop assuming that Mac Pro as its now is enough for today's need. It's not!!! I could elaborate things like render farms etc but I'm sure you got the point here.
Every core counts and doubling cores will give you result in almost half the time. I think that is a HUGE difference for people who need it.

Thats why Mac Pro should be updated and thats why OP brought this issue up.
 
wirelessmacuser said:
Nice Try, but no cigar.

The only people "late to the party" are those of you who are either new to the Apple ecosystem, or uninformed.

Since you seem to take pleasure in speaking like the voice of experience, here it is from another source.
http://www.maclife.com/article/feature/complete_history_wwdc_keynote

Once again I remind you the post was about the "Keynote". Hopefully you know what a keynote is.

Cheers... :)
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I honestly have to wonder if you can read properly.

We knew that *this* keynote would be primarily focused on iOS. I did not say "all the Keynotes have been about iOS and never about Macs" as that, would obviously, be false.

I didn't know I had to state the subject, the subject of the thread is, again, obvious. But apparently you need your hand held.

Just so we are clear, my post was about the keynote in addition to the conference more generally. And my point was that we have known for quite some time that the Mac would take a backseat. I think I remember reading a quote from Jobs on the matter. So, if you did not know this, you were indeed late to the party. All those expecting updates to Macs were just dreaming.

Some advice, work on your reading comprehension.

Maybe this will please you: https://www.macrumors.com/2010/06/11/apple-considering-separate-wwdc-conferences-for-mac-and-ios/
 
Gloor said:
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If I have scene that takes 4 days to render on 4 core Mac Pro then it will take 2 days to render on 8 core Mac Pro and so on. That is without taking better technology etc. into consideration (ie. 2008 xeon will be slower than 2010 xeon) so you get increase there too. As you can see, if I get my result faster then I can do more work in less time and so on.

It would be great if people like you who probably don't use these heavy proc. application would stop assuming that Mac Pro as its now is enough for today's need. It's not!!! ...
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Do you know what they say when you assume. Well, it is only half right. When you assume, it doesn't make an a$$ of me.

To your point, you don't seem to have a clue how much faster your dream machine with your dream processor(s) would be. Rest assured, it will not knock days off your rendering time. That is why professionals build clusters to handle massive rendering tasks.

DaveP said:
Put in another hard drive.
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Get serious. Adding internal hard drives to iMacs is not something that the model was designed for, nor is it something that any serious buyer would expect to do with it. You have two options:
  • Add an external hard drive.
  • Buy a Mac Pro.
It ain't that hard.
 
MisterMe said:
Oh, please:rolleyes: The Macintosh line for the masses is the iMac. What do you want to do that you cannot do with the latest iMac? Apple's most recent MacBook Pro was released in April. It sounds like you want Apple's product line to have a median price of $50 with a new model to ogle every week.
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Negative , what I want is a MiniMax or a consumer tower(Macintosh) to go with a HDTV. Also a new case design at least every 2 years on every machine.:apple:
 
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