Help bring Aurora Feint back to the app store!!!

Discussion in 'iOS Apps' started by diesel, Jul 23, 2008.

  1. diesel macrumors 6502a

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    No, it's a great game, but a terrible design decision by the programmers. They should remove the community feature, then upload a new version.
     
  3. rdrr macrumors 6502a

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    They should have made an on/off feature. Or make it so you had to add contacts to a certain group.
     
  4. chrisb3 macrumors regular

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    They have one in pending Apple's review. I don't have that big a problem with the community thing. It should be implemented along the lines of how a friends list on the Xbox360 works.
     
  5. TonyHoyle macrumors 6502a

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    I don't see what the problem is - you have to type in your email and phone number and it tells you who is also playing... seems fine to me. If you don't like it don't register.

    IMO it would be better if it just got that info from system settings. I can never remember my own number..
     
  6. newyorksole macrumors 68020

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    I want this on my iPhone, is there anyway I can get it?
     
  7. Hodapp macrumors 6502a

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    They were sending your entire contact list unencrypted to their server. While they weren't storing it, if you were playing the game via an open wireless network you would have just blasted your entire contact list in plaintext to anyone with a big enough antenna to receive it. This is a MASSIVE security breach and it has really changed the way I look at apps for the iPhone.
     
  8. Mindflux macrumors 68000

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    blah blah blah blah.

    Plain text isn't exactly as plain as it sounds.
     
  9. pooryou macrumors 65816

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    They should show a list of your contacts to you and let you check the ones that you think would even be interested in playing an iPhone game at all...clearly most will not for whatever reason. Then upload the info over HTTPS. And of course this should be something you have to go out of your way to activate and agree to.
     
  10. ayzee macrumors 6502a

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    Twas my most played game on my iPhone, but as soon as I read the story, I removed it straight away. They have betrayed my trust and im guessing apples, and thats why I wouldnt download it again. I was wondering why such a great app was going for free but this may be the reason why...
     
  11. ubercool macrumors 6502a

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    What happens when you synch? Does Apple take it away? :confused:
     
  12. Mindflux macrumors 68000

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    It only does it when you add your name and phone to the community setup. :rolleyes:
     
  13. Hodapp macrumors 6502a

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    With no warning whatsoever.
     
  14. TonyHoyle macrumors 6502a

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    How do you think it was going to find your list of friends.. magic?

    It was quite clear what it did and you had to enter the information yourself.
     
  15. Hodapp macrumors 6502a

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    Maybe by using even the most basic encryption methods? Hell, I'd have been happy with ROT13.
     
  16. opticalserenity macrumors 6502a

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    This was a classic example of people who are #1 paranoid, and #2 making a mountain out of a mole hill.

    I'm sad the iPhone has users who don't understand what happens when you enter all that information in.
     
  17. Hodapp macrumors 6502a

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    Can you post a screen shot of the warning that says "All of your contacts are now going to be broadcasted unencrypted to the Aurora Feint servers"?

    Furthermore, if you don't care who views your contacts why don't you open address book and export your contacts then post them here?
     
  18. diesel thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    As mentioned in my original post, I believe the developers did a piss poor job of communicating how the community feature worked. Instead they didn't say a word and in the absence of silence, paranoia from users is apt to set in. If they were open about it and disclosed up front how it worked, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion.

    I for one believe them when they say their intent was purely for the advancement of the gameplay and the community and there was nothing sinister about their intentions
     
  19. LinMac macrumors 65816

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    Yes, yes it is. It is just as plain as it sounds. Plain text sent over a wireless connection can easily be sniffed out with basic equipment. There are thousands of examples of how this is possible all over the internet using wifi as an example.

    SSL/TLS encryption does not add that much overhead in a data exchange and should always be used for information that is considered private.

    Take a look at your iPhone's Mail application settings. I believe you'll find SSL enabled for email. :)
     
  20. iPegboy macrumors regular

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    If I never went to the community portion of the game, and just played it -- then my information was never sent, correct?
     
  21. Mindflux macrumors 68000

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    Yet you'll freely dial your friends numbers right off your phone which goes through AT&T's switchboard ... uh oh! UNENCRYPTED.
     
  22. Hodapp macrumors 6502a

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    I can't tell if you're trolling or just really don't have any idea how these things work.
     
  23. CommanderData macrumors regular

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    I think he has NO IDEA how these things work. I can and have sniffed pictures, text of web sites, passwords and e-mail contents over wifi. It is scary that they did not try to encrypt/obfuscate the data in any way.

    I really liked the game, but I don't know if I will play anymore. Some people actually keep important business contact info on their phones, and not just speed dials to mom and dad. I don't want my contact list going out EVER, even if it's encrypted for transmission it will be decrypted at their servers.
     
  24. Mark Booth macrumors 65816

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    Ya'll are missing the bigger picture here! Aurora Feint is just the little fish. The big fish is Apple. The whole point is they are supposed to test these things in advance and the sending of your contacts list in an unencrypted manner is a no-no. (Whether it is OK with some and not OK with others is not the point! It is something that should NOT be done for security reasons!) But Apple didn't catch it. And that makes me wonder what else they might not have caught (or might not catch in the future).

    As for Aurora Feint.... I deleted it and I won't give the developers a second chance. I realize there is apparently no evil intent here, but, if they are so amateurish that they didn't give a second thought to transmitting unencrypted personal data, well then... I don't want that type of amateur software on my iPhone.

    Mark
     
  25. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    While it was very misguided of the Aurora developers to do what they did with the contact list, I'm surprised that Apple allowed this functionaity in their SDK. Who knows what other apps could be reading and transmitting our contact info off our phones/touches, but haven't been "caught" yet?
     

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