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Re: Re: Metal theme

Originally posted by idkew
Well ask Apple for that. Not a problem.

edesign- you are a designer, correct? and you like the metal? well, i guess each to their own...

I am a designer and I like the metal better as well.
 
Personally, I agree with those that say Apple should stick to their own HIG and only put metal on hub apps. I actually don't mind the metal finder at all, but conceptually it and Safari should both be Aqua.

My personal main reason for preferring Aqua on things like that is not the color scheme, but the flexibility of a standard aqua toolbar--drag and drop items from a pane to make it exactly what you want. That's one of the reasons (despite being able to turn things on and off in Safari) I prefer Camino to Safari, and I love being able to build my own toolbar in Mail. The customizable bar was one of the best interface ideas Apple's had in a long time.

All that said, here's a different perspective on metal. Think back a few years to OS8/9. What color was the OS? Grey, with a click-and-draggable border around windows.

Then came white and pinstriped Aqua with no window borders (but a drop shadow to provide some definition), and there was a great hew and cry from those who wanted the grey.

The new Panther metal look is much flatter and smoother than the old one (more like matte-finish aluminum than brushed metal), so it's basically slightly shiny-looking grey with a click-and-draggable border around windows. Not really so different from OS9.

We've actually, in a way, come full circle. For me, the ability to drag a window by it's edge is the biggest unsung advantage of metal over Aqua, and one of the reasons I'm secretly glad that the Finder uses it now (coupled with the smoother look).

Just giving folks a bit more choice would be a nice concession on Apple's part--maybe an aqua-styled, metal-like interface.
 
Isn't it all Aqua

I might be mistaken, but isn't Aqua the name of the base GUI, not just the appearance of the windows? Aqua is the base rules for how objects in the GUI respond, are space and general appearences, not how the windows are colored.

Now, Aqua has been tweaked in each revision of OS X since conception. The X - + buttons have become more flat, the menu bars are unstriped, and the upper right button (don't know it's official name) has slightly changed shape.

The term AQUA refers not the old striped window appearence, but how the GUI appears as a whole. For more info on what Aqua is, check out some of the documentation with Apples Interface Builder on the Developers Tools.

jake
 
I just installed Panther tonight. Eeeew it drove me nuts. The slight style changes are unnerving.

I've switched to the simple finder window, though I miss the toolbar. I put folders in the dock, instead, for now.

The boxes surrounding desktop icons that are selected is also unappealing. That's the biggest thing that looks yucky now. And I don't like the slightly thicker font in Safari. I'm not quite sure what I'm supposed to change to thin them down. And eep, Mail has all those curvy bubbles surrounding things....


However, Expose is REALLY fast on my machine (only a 933). So pretty.
 
The term AQUA refers not the old striped window appearence, but how the GUI appears as a whole.


Yes, but for the sake of convenience (since the most obvious thing about Aqua is the "OS X look" of White and blue-pill), that style is referred to as Aqua by the large part of the community, even though it's a semi-misapplication of the term. Live with it.

--Cless
 
The description of Whiteout says that it modifies a system file to change the texture of metal windows back to pinstripe. Does anybody know which file this is? It would be great if I could hack it with a custom texture.
 
The metal Finder window can be dragged by any of the four edges.
"Aqua" Finder windows can be dragged only by the top, mainly because they do not have borders on the left/right/bottom edges.

Personally, I don't understand why people are so polarized on this issue; it's adjustable, and the new Finder is in fact a major improvement over Jaguar.
At least we now have choice: filebrowser or spatial style.
(although I'm not sure why a different skin is necessary for some applications, but I don't find it confusing or hard to live with.)
 
Originally posted by snickelfritz
At least we now have choice: filebrowser or spatial style. (although I'm not sure why a different skin is necessary for some applications, but I don't find it confusing or hard to live with.)
You get the same choice with Jaguar - just toggle the toolbar (widget at right of title bar) to toggle spatial (no toolbar) or browser. And they're both in Aqua:) .
 
I am brand new to the Mac so I haven't had experiences with previous inervace wars. my take that that the Metal Finder is extrememly easy to use. The "look" of the interface does not detract from the use of the machine and i love the flexibility of changing how I can view the files. I remember when I got my first Win95 computer and was amazed that I could play around with all the colors of the windows. That lasted about 2days. then I settle on one color and was done with it. Apple is not really about choice when it comes to their products. They like us to have the same setups, the same interface, etc. Now I must go and drink some more of that Kool-aid.
 
the look is nothing

i just want the finder to be faster and capable of dealing with large amounts of files better. The look of the finder doesn't really affect me since i use shapeshifter and have an awesome, clean theme. I have gotten use to finder in panther and actually miss it when i go back to jag.

ps I run a lot of haxies and have never had a problem with them or themes.:) :)
 
To me this Thread sounds like this:

- some people like Metal
- some don´t

No one is nuts only because, he/she likes one of those !

Everybody would be satisfied, if in 10.4 Themes are available.
Why not ?
Only because Windoze has this option ???
bla !

In my opinion OS X is in 98% of all cases better than Windoze but for example, I like the Explorer more than the Finder.
And don´t forget: in MY opinion !

Dave out.
 
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