lol. okay i know this is a Mac forum and most likely everyone will say get a MAC over anything else, but let me tell you my situation. My father works a lot...he uses his computer a great deal. he's getting his second masters in May and he's the pastor of a church. So besides e-mail he uses a lot of Microsoft Word. his computer is a really old HP and slow so i'd figured it would be nice to get him a brand new computer for Christmas. He's had his computer since he was the pastor of his old church and just since we've left there it's been almost 5 years. So it's older than that. I think it would be a nice surprise, everytime we're in sam's club I see him dreaming over in the computer section and saying "this is nice" oh look at this "this is nice". lol. Now my father is in his mid to late 50's and he's never used an apple computer before. He's never really looked into apple for a computer for himself...maybe because of the unknown, he thinks they're too expensive, or what i dunno. The only time he's looked into apple was to customize a mac pro (just for fun) which came out equalling the price of a car. his dream computer. lol. I know you can install windows on a MAC. so that's good (for him). I don't know an extreme amount about computers so could you help me decide on which one to get him? This is the one he saw in Sam's Club that he liked: HP Intel® Viiv™ Desktop 2.4GHz, 500GB HD, 22" LCD CLICK HERE It's $1,399.58 after tax it would be like $1,511 the overview: # Intel® Viiv Processor Technology with an Intel® Core Quad Processor Q6600 # Genuine Windows® Vista Home Premium # Maximize PC performance with 3072MB of memory # HP W2207 22" widescreen LCD flat panel monitor # 500GB hard drive stores 240 hours of recorded TV # SuperMulti DVD Burner with LightScribe Technology # Graphics Card + with support for Microsoft® DirectX® 10 # Go wireless with 802.11 b/g # Wireless HP keyboard and mouse # NTSC TV tuner and over-the-air ATSC high-definition television tuner with remote control and infrared receiver # Built-in drive bays for an optional HP Personal Media Drive or HP Pocket Media Drive # Front-panel 15-in-1 memory card reader you can click on the link to look at the specifications. Or The iMAC. The 20-inch 2.4GHz w/ upgrade to a 500GB hard drive. That would be $1,503.00 for me w/ military discount. I was thinking about taking him to an apple store for the purpose of me looking at the macbooks (hes buying me one in January, because thats as soon as he can afford it). so that would give him a chance to actually look at the apple computers and I can see his reactions to them. He's an older man, old habits die hard, he may just prefer the high-end PC. who knows. what do you think?