Help me choose a MBP

[kindaichi81]

Working or non working files? I will just rated it as file which important then in my ssd. But not so important will in my flash drive. If I need everything in my ssd then I need 2tb. 256gb ssd can store a lot of app and important files my friend. Then I will happy to save my $500 for that for my next MacBook Pro after 5 years.
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Btw hdd too big to carry around. Flash drive more handy. I can transfer 150gb files between mac to flash in 20 minutes. I will said not too bad for $60 buck

No one knows his needs than himself. Same it is not logical for someone to assume his needs is the same as others as well. 256gb is a bare minimum for a lot, but not necessarily for everyone. If it works for u, good. But future proofing, 512gb is certainly a sweeter spot in long run. From 256gb to 512gb the extra is not even $500. Check Apple website on this. If one has spent so much on a MacBook Pro, I dun see a reason to save the little bucks while one needs to stress or worry by finding so much solution to fill up the gap and tell self that I can live with it. Same as Budget, I am sure that everyone has different Budget when it comes to purchasing something. But one's Budget and how well he can 'force' himself due to the Budget may not necessarily apply to all.

If one has budget as the only concern, obviously 256gb is his only choice since he does not need to choose due to his budget constraint. In the first place, there is not even any need to discuss about choosing which storage size since the choice does not even exist in the first place.

If one needs to even have flash drive etc on the move with his MacBook Pro it means that in the first place the storage is not even 'enough'. if it is 'enough' flash drive does not even come into place as one can offload his non-working files to HDD or any other storage at home without bringing them along.

Obviously some has the definition of 'enough' thus the choice of the specific size of Apple ssd due to Budget constraint in return some need to find other cheaper option to fill up the gaps. If that's the case, one may not want to consider Apple in the first place as they can get better bang for buck for other options available such as windows laptop.

While the storage size of choice I category as enough is that one can work comfortably without compromization while on the move and for future proofing.

"Pay cheap and buy twice", I always believe this theory.

 

[ZapNZs]

This is perfect. But the price is not what I'm willing to pay . I bought this because I don't need 5 minutes transfer time of 150gb. 20 minutes is ok for me as price wise. But somehow this corsair flash drive is still better option to save $500 agree with me?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00Y...disk+256gb&dpPl=1&dpID=31deSaSaAzL&ref=plSrch

I hope the 256 GB size is faster than the 128 GB size. Mine was literally less than 1/20th the speed of my Corsair GTX.

 

[New_Mac_Smell]

There's a big difference in working space and file storage... If you run out of working space on your main rig a portable USB whatever is not going to help. For backing up and archiving, external HDDs are great, but not for working.

I've got some 10GB psb files kicking around as some work files, recently had to scroll through about 8 of these trying to find a particular image. In total that kicked my working space up to around 150GB... If I didn't have that storage on the HDD, I would have been only able to open one at a time. Which is fine, but a pain for my workflow.

That's why I always recommend you get as much storage as you can, or take what you use and double it. You cannot easily add storage later, although a lot depends on how you use your computer. But buying a 256GB model then getting a 256GB external is not equal to saving $500 on the 512GB SSD. All you've done is get a 256GB computer, with a portable backup medium. People really shouldn't be using there computers SSD to back stuff up anyway, it's a bloody expensive SSD that should be used as a work/swap space, not storing episodes of Americas Top Model.

Anyway, just wanted to chip in there. RAM/SSD are equally as important as each other if you need both. There is never a situation where 16GB of RAM will serve you better than upgrading to a 512GB SSD if you need both. Always make sure your computer is adequate for your needs, then worry about adding external capacity at a later date if and when needed.

 

[mgauss7]

Viewsonic VP2780-4K 27" 4K NOT working with 2017 iMac (same problem probably with new MBP)


After 4 adaptors and 2 cables, connecting the iMac to the monitor as a second monitor stops the audio, and slows the iMac down too much.

3 calls to Apple yield that they are not fully tested with all the new hardware out there yet.

The adaptor companies saying that they are not aware of problems.

The old Apple Thunderbolt Display all agree will not be supported by the new iMac until new firmware is installed in the adapters.

 

[kindaichi81]

There's a big difference in working space and file storage... If you run out of working space on your main rig a portable USB whatever is not going to help. For backing up and archiving, external HDDs are great, but not for working.

I've got some 10GB psb files kicking around as some work files, recently had to scroll through about 8 of these trying to find a particular image. In total that kicked my working space up to around 150GB... If I didn't have that storage on the HDD, I would have been only able to open one at a time. Which is fine, but a pain for my workflow.

That's why I always recommend you get as much storage as you can, or take what you use and double it. You cannot easily add storage later, although a lot depends on how you use your computer. But buying a 256GB model then getting a 256GB external is not equal to saving $500 on the 512GB SSD. All you've done is get a 256GB computer, with a portable backup medium. People really shouldn't be using there computers SSD to back stuff up anyway, it's a bloody expensive SSD that should be used as a work/swap space, not storing episodes of Americas Top Model.

Anyway, just wanted to chip in there. RAM/SSD are equally as important as each other if you need both. There is never a situation where 16GB of RAM will serve you better than upgrading to a 512GB SSD if you need both. Always make sure your computer is adequate for your needs, then worry about adding external capacity at a later date if and when needed.

Well said. 16gb/512gb are very common need nowadays.

I always see ppl around me claim to have 'enough' for the Low storage macbook/iphone at the start of the purchase. Only few months time, they already regretted for not getting the higher storage and try to find external solution to it. But it is totally not the same thing. They may 'tot' that they have saved money in the first place, but they just waste time and extra money while they do not get something that is really going to keer their needs in Long run.

Pay cheap and buy twice.

 

[joefoong79]

There's a big difference in working space and file storage... If you run out of working space on your main rig a portable USB whatever is not going to help. For backing up and archiving, external HDDs are great, but not for working.

I've got some 10GB psb files kicking around as some work files, recently had to scroll through about 8 of these trying to find a particular image. In total that kicked my working space up to around 150GB... If I didn't have that storage on the HDD, I would have been only able to open one at a time. Which is fine, but a pain for my workflow.

That's why I always recommend you get as much storage as you can, or take what you use and double it. You cannot easily add storage later, although a lot depends on how you use your computer. But buying a 256GB model then getting a 256GB external is not equal to saving $500 on the 512GB SSD. All you've done is get a 256GB computer, with a portable backup medium. People really shouldn't be using there computers SSD to back stuff up anyway, it's a bloody expensive SSD that should be used as a work/swap space, not storing episodes of Americas Top Model.

Anyway, just wanted to chip in there. RAM/SSD are equally as important as each other if you need both. There is never a situation where 16GB of RAM will serve you better than upgrading to a 512GB SSD if you need both. Always make sure your computer is adequate for your needs, then worry about adding external capacity at a later date if and when needed.

In real world you can get what you want. But smart people always go with money option. For me . Choice of 512gb is not necessary. You can had 100 reason for 512gb is better. But for me saving $500 cash is 33% of what I save for paid of my whole laptop.
[doublepost=1501420829][/doublepost]Btw get 256gb doesn't mean my mbp under performing than your mbp. It just personal necessity. I still get my other 256gb on flash.

 

[New_Mac_Smell]

In real world you can get what you want. But smart people always go with money option. For me . Choice of 512gb is not necessary. You can had 100 reason for 512gb is better. But for me saving $500 cash is 33% of what I save for paid of my whole laptop.
[doublepost=1501420829][/doublepost]Btw get 256gb doesn't mean my mbp under performing than your mbp. It just personal necessity. I still get my other 256gb on flash.

Eh? No one's saying your computer is weaker for not having 512GB of storage, that's just ludicrous!

Always take what you have and double it is all I was saying. If you're using 256GB today then you'll want 512GB. If you are barely using 100GB then of course you don't need 512GB!

It's just a warning that you cannot add internal working space, which is what the internal drive is for. So you shouldn't limit the capacity and add an external drive thinking it equals the same thing. It doesn't, I cannot use an external as a swap space, and it would massively limit my workflow. Again, if you're using 128GB then 256GB is fine, grab external for storage.

Really not sure what you're not understanding there, also where are you paying $500 for storage?? It's $200 to go from 256GB to 512GB.

P.s. smart people actually get what they need to get the job done, because smart people were once dumb people who tried to save a few quid and ended up spending double to get the right tool.

 

[joefoong79]

Eh? No one's saying your computer is weaker for not having 512GB of storage, that's just ludicrous!

Always take what you have and double it is all I was saying. If you're using 256GB today then you'll want 512GB. If you are barely using 100GB then of course you don't need 512GB!

It's just a warning that you cannot add internal working space, which is what the internal drive is for. So you shouldn't limit the capacity and add an external drive thinking it equals the same thing. It doesn't, I cannot use an external as a swap space, and it would massively limit my workflow. Again, if you're using 128GB then 256GB is fine, grab external for storage.

Really not sure what you're not understanding there, also where are you paying $500 for storage?? It's $200 to go from 256GB to 512GB.

P.s. smart people actually get what they need to get the job done, because smart people were once dumb people who tried to save a few quid and ended up spending double to get the right tool.

As I said before you pay what you want . But for me or someone think saving is priority is important than this is the the option. Do some research that other authorized seller online selling mbp 256gb $500 less than 512gb smart cookie. That why I said again you are not smart enough. If I really like apple. I rather save enough to buy their stock to leverage rather then their product. Because is depreciation. I will not buying a house of 3 millions for 10 room if only 6 family member. I will rather choose 2 millions for 7 room and pay another 1 million for my 2 house for rental smart boy.

This is just my personal opinion.
[doublepost=1501423888][/doublepost]Btw I will not think storage always not enough because I can always buy flash drive ( because is cheap). I will always think money is not enaough. LoL

 

[New_Mac_Smell]

As I said before you pay what you want . But for me or someone think saving is priority is important than this is the the option. Do some research that other authorized seller online selling mbp 256gb $500 less than 512gb smart cookie. That why I said again you are not smart enough. If I really like apple. I rather save enough to buy their stock to leverage rather then their product. Because is depreciation. I will not buying a house of 3 millions for 10 room if only 6 family member. I will rather choose 2 millions for 7 room and pay another 1 million for my 2 house for rental smart boy.

This is just my personal opinion.
[doublepost=1501423888][/doublepost]Btw I will not think storage always not enough because I can always buy flash drive ( because is cheap). I will always think money is not enaough. LoL

You really don't seem to be understanding me so I'll leave it at this one.

I am not saying you are wrong, clearly 256GB is enough for you which is fine. That is what I was saying, make sure you have enough... If you're storing 'files' then you should be doing this on an external drive and it is not a smart move to store data on an expensive internal flash drive.

What I am calling out is swap space, this is not internal storage for files, this is actual physical space for temporary file storage. Again using an earlier example I gave, opening up half a dozen psb files containing hundreds of images takes up physical swap space, which is cached on the swap (Internal) drive. That is not storing files on an external drive or anything of the sort, it is that if there wasn't enough internal space, I would not be able to open those files without deleting data or limiting my workflow. Again, I need that extra space for working, not for storing files. And that's what I was highlighting as a necessity for not limiting your internal storage in favour of external options for WORKING, not for storing files.

Money/depreciation/current housing prices have absolutely nothing to do with it. But for your analogy, you work on cars for a living, so you buy a 1 car garage. Now you have nowhere to work on an actual car without first removing your car and pulling the new one in. You decided to rent out a garage down the road instead, meaning you need to drive several miles every time you need to work on a car. Why not buy a 2 car garage to begin with? It'll save you a lot of money in the long run. Or you have a lot of stuff to store, so you buy a 1 car garage and fill it up, stick that extra stuff down the road in storage and save money on a 2 car garage. That makes sense but the first one doesn't, right? Leaving it at that though as this is just defending into lunacy now.

 

[joefoong79]

I hope you really known what you talking about. 2 garage. . 2 miles? From your prospective I think everyone here need 2 garage. LoL. Face the real world my friend.
[doublepost=1501439989][/doublepost]Should order 5 garage from mild storage in convince.