So I'm buying in Greece from a retail seller (no Apple store or even Amazon here), and I'd appreciate it if you guys could let me know what you think. Basically, I have a choice between a mediocre new MBP 15" and a souped up rMBP 15". The new one would require more accessories and ultimately cost a bit more, but maybe it's worth it for the specs?: new MBP 15" Intel Core i7 quad-core 2,6GHz (Turbo Boost up to 3,5GHz) 16GB of memory 2133MHz SSD PCIe at 512GB Radeon Pro 460 with 4GB of memory Backlit keyboard Four Thunderbolt 3 ports Touch Bar and Touch ID TOTAL: € 3.279,00 ---------------- OR ---------------- Previous rMBP 15" Intel Quad Core i7 2.8Ghz 16GB of memory 1600MHz DDR3L SSD PCIe at 512GB Intel Iris Pro, AMD Radeon R9 M370X with 2GB of memory 2 Thunderbolt ports HDMI, MagSafe 2 power port 2 USB 3 ports (up to 5 Gbps) TOTAL: € 3.293,12 --------------------- I might be missing a few specs. I had to mix and match. The rMBP is actually available, while the newer MBP is an estimation I gathered from apple.it. (the VAT tax in Italy and Greece is more or less the same) For the newer MBP I would have to buy a mouse and a USB-USB-C adaptor, which would set me back another €130 or so. ---------------------- When it comes down to it, the price of a souped up rMBP and a mediocre 2016 Pro, the price is the same. I'd be getting the new specs for the 2016 model, but only 2,6 GHz (given my budget). In my last thread I was swayed by those who suggested I go for the older model, but given this comparison I'm not so sure. I basically work using Logic Pro X. For the 2016 MBP I'd need the adaptor to plug in my current USB audio interface (can't yet afford a thunderbolt one). I also wanna do some medium gaming. I'm guessing Bioshock Infinite would work fine on both of these models. Given I use Logic and want to do some mid-level gaming, what do you all think? I realised I posted a similar thread before, but given this information I need some more input and thought I should rephrase it. If the moderates wish they can delete the older thread.