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I am amazed by the sentiments here. Apparently thinkpads are special machines among PCs.

They have that patina, which is amplified by people who don't own them ;)

Personally Sony usually supplies more of what I really want to use on the move, and I think the Dell Latitudes are not a million miles off in terms of no-nonsense dependability and business use suitability. Currently I have a T61p, which is my main 'mainstream-sized' notebook. The X300 or a Reserve may be in the future, but not sure yet.

Thinkpads have zero style, but they are workhorses.

I have to disagree. Dell Latitudes truly have zero style although the new ones might be promising. The Thinkpads have Porsche style - perfected in the 80's, maintained lazily since :D
 
Thinkpads have zero style, but they are workhorses.

Amen, brother.

Damn Apple is in some serious trouble. No wonder their stock has tanked recently.

True. Who knows what's going down in the next few years.

They have that patina, which is amplified by people who don't own them ;)

Personally Sony usually supplies more of what I really want to use on the move, and I think the Dell Latitudes are not a million miles off in terms of no-nonsense dependability and business use suitability. Currently I have a T61p, which is my main 'mainstream-sized' notebook. The X300 or a Reserve may be in the future, but not sure yet.



I have to disagree. Dell Latitudes truly have zero style although the new ones might be promising. The Thinkpads have Porsche style - perfected in the 80's, maintained lazily since :D

True, that. I disagree with you about Sony though. It is a bit sketchy on quality, IMHO.
 
True, that. I disagree with you about Sony though. It is a bit sketchy on quality, IMHO.

There are two different Sony's. The lower-end models are built in much the same way as all Apples - so I wouldn't be surprised if they are a little dodgy. The upper-end models (and I never buy anything else) are made in Japan. Never had a problem worth noting that wasn't obviously self-inflicted. Which is just as well, since their support sucked as much as Apple. A week or more to turn a laptop around - how ludicrous is that?!?:confused: Just as well they're starting to offer on-site, but I'll bet that sucks too.
 
There are two different Sony's. The lower-end models are built in much the same way as all Apples - so I wouldn't be surprised if they are a little dodgy. The upper-end models (and I never buy anything else) are made in Japan. Never had a problem worth noting that wasn't obviously self-inflicted. Which is just as well, since their support sucked as much as Apple. A week or more to turn a laptop around - how ludicrous is that?!?:confused: Just as well they're starting to offer on-site, but I'll bet that sucks too.

Haha! I never knew that. Well, you learn something every day, I guess.

Actually, I just started working on a project last night involving a VAIO. It's one of those teeny little 10.6" widescreen PCG-TR3As. I had Ubuntu on it and had to get XP Pro on, activate it, install hundreds of megs of drivers for obscure features, et cetera. Thank God it has a combo drive! :eek:
 
One day Linux will kill Windows and OS X. Both Appl£ and Micro$oft are corporations, and so are greedy, but Linux is open and not crippled because of marketing. eg: Windows Vista Home Basic, Premium, etc.
 
Well, the 2 thinkpads we had at the agency could be desribed as dodgy as well. And it didn't take them one week, it took them three weeks to get them repaired. But I'm sure that was just very bad luck, as most sources believe the thinkpads to be rather reliable. It's just hard not to be biased when you have had bad experiences with certain manufacturers.

Good luck to the op with whatever path you choose, if you like your thinkpad then there is nothing wrong with you keeping it. Don't let friends opinions matter, YOU have to use, work with and hopefully enjoy your computer.
 
One day Linux will kill Windows and OS X. Both Appl£ and Micro$oft are corporations, and so are greedy, but Linux is open and not crippled because of marketing. eg: Windows Vista Home Basic, Premium, etc.

You may shut up at the sound of the beep. *beep* :D And, that was one of the most random, inaccurate, ridiculous posts I have seen in a very, very long time.

I forgive you though; fanboyism can do that to people. :rolleyes:

Well, the 2 thinkpads we had at the agency could be desribed as dodgy as well. And it didn't take them one week, it took them three weeks to get them repaired. But I'm sure that was just very bad luck, as most sources believe the thinkpads to be rather reliable. It's just hard not to be biased when you have had bad experiences with certain manufacturers.

Good luck to the op with whatever path you choose, if you like your thinkpad then there is nothing wrong with you keeping it. Don't let friends opinions matter, YOU have to use, work with and hopefully enjoy your computer.

Thank you. I think that I will keep the thinkpad for a month or so, at least until I get that certain *nix on it. After that, if i am lucky, it'll get traded for a black Core Duo MacBook. Hopefully.
 
One day Linux will kill Windows and OS X. Both Appl£ and Micro$oft are corporations, and so are greedy, but Linux is open and not crippled because of marketing. eg: Windows Vista Home Basic, Premium, etc.

Because, of course, everyone who uses a computer is a productivity-driven, terminal-using nerd...

"Grandad! You're Ubunting from now on."
 
Because, of course, everyone who uses a computer is a productivity-driven, terminal-using nerd...

"Grandad! You're Ubunting from now on."

ROFLMAO! :D I had been looking for a description of Linux users for a while now. May I quote you on this?
 
Of course :)

Disclaimer: I've no problem with Linux users, but the idea that the future will be entirely free of corporate OSs is something i find laughable, particularly if we're going to end up with online operating systems. Linux is for power users, it's not got any mainstream appeal.
 
Just to clear this up, I am not a Linux fanboy, I mainly use OS X. However, in the future will be open source.
 
Just to clear this up, I am not a Linux fanboy, I mainly use OS X. However, in the future will be open source.

I don't see why. That would mean the death of a billions-of-dollars industry, and even get rid of thousands upon thousands of jobs.

Do you mean open-source once you buy it?
 
I don't see why. That would mean the death of a billions-of-dollars industry, and even get rid of thousands upon thousands of jobs.

Do you mean open-source once you buy it?

I dont really think Linux itself will dominate everything, but things will be more open, and even if not, open source apps/OSes will have a larger market share.
 
I dont really think Linux itself will dominate everything, but things will be more open, and even if not, open source apps/OSes will have a larger market share.

As long as the major companies stay in business, I am OK with that.
 
I don't understand how you change computers so often. Isn't data transfer a pain in the arse?

It's really not that hard. I transfer my files to a 200TB external hard drive via FireWire, and it takes ten minutes or so.
 
Keep the Thinkpad. Those things are built to last. I changed from an iBook and to MacBook, and it feels slightly 'cheap'. Aside from that, I am happy with it :)
 
I don't understand how you change computers so often. Isn't data transfer a pain in the arse?

Not in my case - all of my data is held centrally or is synchronised off the servers, and I use Citrix and other forms of remote access to access working sessions - and now, I have a remote accessible virtual Mac OS session so that I can work on OS X software on machines that are actually built properly such as my Sonys, Dells, and Lenovos. The only thing that's not synced that I need is bookmarks, and I use Foxmarks for that these days.

It's a very good concept and works well overall, and means that each (Windows - OS X is not good for this sort of thing) machine is essentially disposable, or allows easy moving. I typically buy one notebook in a category every 9 months - so that means that I'm buying a new notebook once every 2 months or so.

If one is inoperable, I just move onto the next one I have. If one gets stolen, I can easily prevent that machine from going anywhere near my private networks.
 
Not in my case - all of my data is held centrally or is synchronised off the servers, and I use Citrix and other forms of remote access to access working sessions - and now, I have a remote accessible virtual Mac OS session so that I can work on OS X software on machines that are actually built properly such as my Sonys, Dells, and Lenovos. The only thing that's not synced that I need is bookmarks, and I use Foxmarks for that these days.

It's a very good concept and works well overall, and means that each (Windows - OS X is not good for this sort of thing) machine is essentially disposable, or allows easy moving. I typically buy one notebook in a category every 9 months - so that means that I'm buying a new notebook once every 2 months or so.

If one is inoperable, I just move onto the next one I have. If one gets stolen, I can easily prevent that machine from going anywhere near my private networks.

Citrix is the beast. I'm posting from Windows Server 2003 on my thinkpad right now. I'm using Citrix with Connect2School, and logging on to my account on the middle school's servers to do an outline on - guess who?- Bill Gates.

:D
 
I suppose I'm old fashioned in the sense

Probably not. Although it's probably what everyone will take for granted a few years down the line, people who have anywhere access now are for the most part limited to corporates or resourceful tech-savvyists. And fewer still have their own datacenter - let alone triple-redundant facilities.
 
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