Help Needed - 2017 27 iMac vs 2019 27 iMac

Discussion in 'iMac' started by way77, Jun 14, 2019 at 10:44 AM.

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Best Value?

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  1. way77, Jun 14, 2019 at 10:44 AM
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    way77 macrumors newbie

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    Trying to decide if this is a better deal than the new 2019 27 iMac... I use Sketchup and plan to use this with Twinmotion Seems like the 8 GB GPU would be better than the 4 GB on the base 2019 model. I like the third option but $800 savings is significant. Thots appreciated!

    1) $1599 2017 3.8 GHz Intel Core i5 Quad-Core
    • 3.8 GHz Intel Core i5 Quad-Core
    • 8GB of DDR4 RAM | 2TB Fusion Drive
    • 27" 5120 x 2880 IPS Retina 5K Display
    • AMD Radeon Pro 580 Graphics Card (8GB)


    2) $1719 2019 3.0 GHz Intel Core i5 6-Core
    • 3.0 GHz Intel Core i5 Six-Core
    • 8GB of DDR4 RAM | 1TB Fusion Drive
    • 27" 5120 x 2880 IPS Retina 5K Display
    • AMD Radeon Pro 570X GPU (4GB)


    3) $2399 2019 3.7 GHz Intel Core i5 6-Core
    • 3.7 GHz Intel Core i5 Six-Core
    • 8GB of DDR4 RAM | 512GB PCIe SSD
    • 27" 5120 x 2880 IPS Retina 5K Display
    • AMD Radeon Pro 580X GPU (8GB)
     
  2. Whiteman007 macrumors member

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    When I buy my next Mac I’m planning on getting option 3 exact Setup. Option 1 looks good too but I think going SSD is what u wanna do. If you can add an SSD to option 1 maybe that one.
     
  3. way77 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    The 2 TB fusion drive in #1 has 128 GB of SSD which made me think this is a pretty good value and the Geekbench scores for it are around 15000 which is not bad compared to the newer #2 iMac at around 20000.
     
  4. Zen_Arcade macrumors member

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    I'd go with #3 but with the 2 TB fusion drive. Unless you're rebooting or restarting applications often (if so, WHY?), the fusion drive works well and is effectively invisible in day to day use.
     
  5. nihil0 macrumors regular

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    Go for #1, add external ssd tb later, if needed (I have exact same config and don't need it)
     
  6. way77 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I Like that #1 has the 580 and the 2 TB drive compared to the 2019 #2. Not sure still how big a real world difference the the 580 has over the newer 570X. Do you find your Mac to be relatively fast?
     
  7. nihil0 macrumors regular

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    I use my iMac 99% for photo editing in Photoshop, Lightroom and Luminar 3 so for me the GPU power is not #1 priority although from time to time I play videogames either on Bootcamp or macOS natively and that is where GPU shines. Anyway, the difference between 570X and 580 will be roughly similar as between 570 and 580 because the X version is only slightly clocked higher. But 580 has 8 GB of VRAM and that always comes handy when trying to power amazing 5K display. My Mac is as fast as those apps I use allow it to be. For example, non of the apps I use benefit from having more than 4 CPU cores so 6 core option for me would be only a little step up. But for 3D rendering the more cores you have, the better (saves time). Although, it is a qustion whether it is 800$ worth of time.
     
  8. way77 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks for the feedback. The newer one is a 9th generation chip vs the 2017 7th generation chip. That's probably the most attractive aspect. I plan to use this with Twinmotion which is based on the Unreal engine, so basically quite similar to video games you mention. Also do a lot of photography so either one should work well for that. 2 years difference makes the latter a bit more futureproof, but I'm using a late 2012 iMac and it's still hanging in there... mostly.
     
  9. nihil0 macrumors regular

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    I think that only real boost in 7th vs 9th gen is multicore speed because there are 2 more physical cores in 9th gen. But if it is worth 800$ to you, that is a question. That 1st choice is most solid price-performance ratio. I did not have any problems while playing games on my quad core CPU.
     
  10. SalisburySam macrumors member

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    It would appear that you’re going to be best served by a faster processor and more RAM to keep as much of your workspace in the fastest memory while manipulating. To me that says go with #3 but consider two upgrades: a faster processor, and 16GB or more of RAM. The former is bought with the machine and cannot be upgraded easily ever. The RAM can be upgraded easily at any time up to the max supported on the machine. For your use the 580X GPU should work very well. I also agree the 0.5TB SSD is a better option than a fusion drive. For storage, you may with to add a Thunderbolt3 or USB3.1 external hard drive, of a speed and size sufficient for your work, or an expensive NAS setup.
     
  11. dazlicous macrumors 6502a

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    Option 3 would never even consider a Fusion drive
     
  12. way77 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanx, plan to add at least 32 GB of ram to either option, can't imagine them even running on 8GB!
     
  13. way77 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Option 1 it is.... Thanx all for the feedback.
     

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