Help needed ASAP

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by maxmaut, Sep 18, 2014.

  1. maxmaut macrumors regular

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    Hey guys, so I'm in line at Apple store right now and the employee came outside to let us know which phones do they have in stock (no specific numbers, just rough info) and they do not have any iphones 6plus from T- mobile.

    So I am from Ukraine and I need to take phone home to use it with our carriers. Now which one should I go for since they don't have any T-mobile phones?

    All carriers in Ukraine are GSM, if that helps. Will Verizon phone work with those carriers?

    Also - how do I get the phone with no contract, so I am not charged after I leave US? Can I actually buy one if I'm not a citizen and I don't have SSN?

    Help, please.
     
  2. JRoDDz macrumors 68000

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  3. mikethebigo macrumors 68000

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    AT&T phone is GSM but locked. Verizon model is unlocked but I don't know if it works with all of your LTE bands.

    I don't think you can get the Verizon model on launch day without a contract though.
     
  4. Hal~9000, Sep 18, 2014
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    Hal~9000 macrumors 68000

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    The verizon version comes unlocked for use on GSM networks. You need to do your own research though to figure out which cellular frequencies your carrier in the Ukraine has and if the phone you are buying has those frequencies.
     
  5. maxmaut thread starter macrumors regular

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  6. mikethebigo macrumors 68000

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    I think so. But not positive on that.
     
  7. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    Last year I bought an off-contract AT&T 5s on launch day from an Apple Store. Have no idea if it was unlocked or not, as I've never taken it overseas or tried to use with another carrier, but it was definitely off contract.
     
  8. maxmaut thread starter macrumors regular

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    So apple rep just told me that I can buy any carrier for full price without SSN. So I now need to figure out the carrier that will work in Ukraine.
     
  9. JRoDDz macrumors 68000

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    You have to ask the Apple rep if the phones are locked. If so, they won't work with Ukraine carrier without being unlocked first. If they are unlocked, then any GSM iPhone (AT&T, T-Mobile) would work.
     
  10. Velin macrumors 65816

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    If unlocked, iPhone 6 will work with any GSM. When 5s launched, the "Verizon" version of the 5s was the one to buy -- it was fully unlocked, even on launch day, all three radios were active, because of FTC settlement.

    I don't know if that is the same with the 6, but I bet ATT will work, both T-Mobile and ATT are GSM. GSM is the worldwide standard.
     
  11. Appl3FTW macrumors 601

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    from what ive been told.. the only unlocked phones are tmobile phones from apple stores.

    att phones- locked both att and apple
    verizon phones- rumored unlocked because of LTE clause
    tmobile phones- locked tmobile, unlocked apple
    sprint phones- locked both sprint and apple
     
  12. westcoastcyc macrumors regular

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    Just ask for the "device only" when you are trying to buy your phone or else they will try to sell you a contract phone.. Yes, you would need a SSN for that since they run a credit check.
     
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  14. JRoDDz macrumors 68000

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    If you are buying the phone full price, no credit check needed. Just cold hard cash.
     
  15. westcoastcyc macrumors regular

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    I thought Apple stopped accepting cash in store ?
     
  16. maxmaut thread starter macrumors regular

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    Thanks guys. So the only option for me now is Verizon. Now, how do I know if ukrainian carriers (Life, MTC, Kyivstar) use same bands as Verizon?

    I googled and I cant find that info anywhere.
     
  17. JRoDDz macrumors 68000

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    I paid cash for a Macbook Air last year. They were happy to take my money.

    I wouldn't worry about the LTE bands, all iPhone 6 and 6+ have the most LTE bands of any phone.
     
  18. BoxerGT2.5 macrumors 68000

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    Calling in air strikes with iPhones. Doesn't get more pimp than that.
     
  19. maxmaut thread starter macrumors regular

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    We dont have LTE in Ukraine, I care only about 3G and calls
     
  20. Velin macrumors 65816

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    Dude, read the above posts more carefully. A fully unlocked Verizon phone will have radios for ALL the bands -- GSM, CDMA, and UST. So forget Verizon -- look at your local frequencies, compare with iPhone 6 radio specs, and you are good.
     
  21. pdxmatts, Sep 18, 2014
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  22. Dranix macrumors 6502a

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    That is wrong: The CDMA iPhone6 has 4 LTE band less then then GSM version...
     
  23. lovelybai macrumors member

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    You could try buying ATT device only.
    1) att iphone 5 and iphone 5s were unlocked if you choose device only.no ssn needed
    2) some store don't allow selling device only. It is store decision.

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    In most of the cases, apple rep will not tell the truth or they really are not sure. You have to take the risk
     
  24. EJ8 macrumors 6502a

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    You call people?
     
  25. bandrews macrumors 6502a

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    I have nothing relevant to add other than I will never understand how the leaders of the free world have developed such a messed up and confusing mobile infrastructure. The whole thing from point of sale and contracts to the frequency bands just seems so unnecessarily complicated.
     

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