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christo930

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I have a Performa 5200CD running 7.5.1 and I want to get files onto the machine. When I burn a CD with sit files from a Windows 7 machine using CD XP Pro, it is not openable on the Mac. They are not multi-session CDs and I'm pretty sure they are in the format that only supports the 8.3 file name convention. As I understand it, this is supposed to be the most compatible CD-ROM format.

It has been a long time, but I seem to recall classic Mac can't open windows CDs. I know the drive is working because it is able to read other CDs. I found an article about making CDs that will open on System 7, but that was for modern Macs.
Is there an easy and free way to do this? I have stuffit on the machine, so that shouldn't be a problem.

Also, I have a couple of hard drive images from an emulator in HFV format. Is there an easy way to just burn those images on a CD and have them work on a system 7 machine like the 5200CD?
 

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I have a Performa 5200CD running 7.5.1 and I want to get files onto the machine. When I burn a CD with sit files from a Windows 7 machine using CD XP Pro, it is not openable on the Mac. They are not multi-session CDs and I'm pretty sure they are in the format that only supports the 8.3 file name convention. As I understand it, this is supposed to be the most compatible CD-ROM format.

It has been a long time, but I seem to recall classic Mac can't open windows CDs. I know the drive is working because it is able to read other CDs. I found an article about making CDs that will open on System 7, but that was for modern Macs.
Is there an easy and free way to do this? I have stuffit on the machine, so that shouldn't be a problem.

Also, I have a couple of hard drive images from an emulator in HFV format. Is there an easy way to just burn those images on a CD and have them work on a system 7 machine like the 5200CD?

Do you have a mac running OSX? If you can get the files from the windows box onto your OSX box, this guy documented a process via OSX to make files readable in system7 linked below. I did notice that his success was with 7.6.1 and could not verify success under 7.5.1, but then again he didn't say is wouldn't work either. Might be worth a shot?


Best of luck to you.
 

swamprock

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I had a 6230CD at one time (20 years ago) that was a pain to get files on as well. I ended up springing for a Nubus ethernet card and a crossover cable, and just moved files from my Wallstreet to the 6230. These days, such a card would probably be a pain to find and expensive to boot, but I just wanted to share my experience with this machine (which eventually ended up holding my basement door open, although now I wish I still had it. Would have been a cool old games machine :) ).
 
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Now you're onto something. Retroarch ugly beige box door stops. It brings both function and beauty together in a new and ingenious way. That has got to be one of the cooler ways to keep a teenager's bedroom door open :D

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TzunamiOSX

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Use SheepShaver emulator (A bit work) to creat an CD-image, berhaps you can burn this image under Windows.

You also need a more modern version of StuffIt, like in system 8 or better system 9
 
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christo930

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Use SheepShaver emulator (A bit work) to creat an CD-image, berhaps you can burn this image under Windows.

You also need a more modern version of StuffIt, like in system 8 or better system 9

I have BasiliskII on my computer. Do you know of a free software I can download to create the image file with? I could use the file explorer to pull it out of the hardfile and burn it as an ISO which would presumably work. I think the BasiliskII computer is running system 8. Does that complicate things?
 

defjam

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I would recommend, unless you have no alternative, you avoid using a PC for transferring classic MacOS files. I was never able to successfully use CD XP Pro to do so.

Does your 5200CD have ethernet and you have the appropriate cable to use it? If so you can use Fetch to FTP files over to the system. On occasion I do this between my Leopard and Mac OS 7.5.5 systems. Fetch is small enough to move via floppy. Do you have a Mac which can run an older version of OS X?
 

havokalien

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Multisession cds still must be finalized before the mac can even see them. Also if the files were compressed on a mac greater than OS8 it wont see the files either. If you need files to go to or from the old powerpc zip drives are by far the easiest way, but again the oriniating mac cant use 8 or up. I burnt copies of system 7 files not compressed on system 8 years ago, which I still have, and it literally has a file that says where have all my files gone and tells you what I just said.
 

defjam

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Multisession cds still must be finalized before the mac can even see them. Also if the files were compressed on a mac greater than OS8 it wont see the files either. If you need files to go to or from the old powerpc zip drives are by far the easiest way, but again the oriniating mac cant use 8 or up. I burnt copies of system 7 files not compressed on system 8 years ago, which I still have, and it literally has a file that says where have all my files gone and tells you what I just said.
I frequently use Mac OS 9.1 to transfer files to older Macs. Using it makes such transfers considerably easier.
 

TzunamiOSX

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Important:

Never extract sit/hqx and so on, on Windows or newer Mac OS version (10.5 is save for sure, higher i don't know) because this will destroy the "resource fork" of old Mac Apps.

Work in your emulator, there you can extract it an put the files to an CD/DVD image. But the saver way ist to copy the the compressed files to an image, burn it and extract it on your Mac.
 
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