Help with BluRay?

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  1. MythicFrost macrumors 68040

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    Hi,

    I'm going to burn my first BluRay movie soon (I'll be purchasing one in the near future) and I really just need to know a few simple things:

    1) Does Snow Leopard support the burning and playing of BluRay movies? I intend to put them in iTunes and stream them to my ATV
    2) What kind of BluRay player do I need to plug into my Mac? Does it need to be a specific type or can I just buy anyone?
    3) What bandwidth do I need to stream a BluRay to the previous generation ATV? I have the latest AEBS -- will it provide enough?
     
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  3. MythicFrost thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Thank you very much!

    I'll pick myself up an external BluRay player and just plug it in. Is USB 2 (480Mb/s) fast enough to rip the movie without bottlenecking? Or is firewire (800Mb/s) more preferable?
     
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    USB should be fine. The bottleneck is the speed of the drive so spending more on FW800 enclosure is quite pointless.

    Myce forums are a good place to looks for firmware hacks if you want better ripping speed (also good place to look for best bang for buck drive). Just linking it if you're interested, any drive should do the job
     
  5. MythicFrost thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Excellent, thank you!
     
  6. canyonblue737 macrumors 6502a

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    I just started burning my BluRays... so far the results have surpassed my wildest expectations in quality, ease of the process, and the tiny size of the files.

    1. Bought a Plextor PX-120U external USB 2.0 drive for $99 (no enclosure needed.)

    2. Downloaded MakeMKV.

    3. Used MakeMKV to copy BluRay to drive, selecting only the movie title itself and leaving the BluRay extras behind to save space.

    4. Used Handbrake (get a nightly, the most up to date version) to encode the MKV file. Settings in Handbrake were: High Profile Preset, RF 20, Large File, 29.97 Frame Per Second with Peak Frame Rate box checked, Audio setting to include AC3 passthrough or AC3 down mix if available, and Picture settings of no filters, Anamorphic set to None with max width of 1280 and keep dimensions checked.

    The time to do all this? About 45-50 minutes to rip the disk, and about 90-120 minutes to encode it using my i7 iMac. The size of the files are anywhere from 1.5-2.5GB *including* the surround sound tracks for passthrough.

    The results are mind blowing.
     
  7. roidy macrumors 6502a

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    Not sure why you would force the frame rate to 29.97fps, same as source is the best option as 99% of Blu-Rays have a frame rate of 23.976fps.
     
  8. NightStorm macrumors 68000

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    29.97fps with peak frame rate checked means "same as source, but don't go over 29.97fps". I've been meaning to update my HD presets to use this now that the ATV2 can playback 720p30, but have been lazy.
     
  9. roidy macrumors 6502a

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    I see, I really need to update my version of Handbrake. Still I've never had a Blu-Ray yet thats gone higher than 24fps but there's always a first time I suppose.
     
  10. dhy8386 macrumors 6502a

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    I hate you...

    Have a archaic C2D 2.4 and it takes 4-8 hrs to encode a blu ray...results are mind blowing and frankly i would just convert everything to MP4/Mv4 for compatibility (currently keep the original untouched ISOs for Blu Ray) if it didnt take so damn long. Yes i could set a q but i always seem to get errors here and there that mess it up and then i have to start all over.

    Realllllly need an i7 something...wonder if i can rent one for like a month. :)
     
  11. canyonblue737 macrumors 6502a

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    There are some blurays with fps at 60 and it appears based on testing the ATV2 handles that despite saying it is limited to 30. However to preserve future compatibility in software updates I am setting 29.97 max but with the peak rate box in the nightly checked with means "do the blurays native rate or 29.97 max".

    To make you all jealous... My iMac did 8 Bluray encodes and 14 DVD's from 8 pm to 7 am last night! Some DVDs were short 1 hr kids features but still...
     
  12. MythicFrost thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Wow, nice.

    I think I only have a 1080i TV (not p), that isn't even 720p!
     

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