Help with buying a Mac Pro

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  1. JordanSimps, Oct 25, 2012
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    JordanSimps macrumors newbie

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    Lately, I've been getting frustrated with using Cinema 4D with my MacBook Pro I bought in mid-2009 and decided in buying a Mac Pro Tower. First of all, is a Mac Pro really worth the money? Secondly, what makes the Mac Pro Server different from the Quad-Core and 12-Core? Thirdly, How much of a difference would getting a SSD affect my rendor speed in Cinema 4D? And lastly, would I get a cheaper Mac Pro if I buy the RAM, HDD, SSD, and Graphic Card separately and not through Apple? Do they actually sell these items that are compatible with the Mac Pro? If so, can I get links of these items? If anyone has any other comments or questions on my decision, please, reply.
     
  2. El Awesome macrumors 6502

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    If you find a good second-hand model, then yes.
    New, not at all. The Mac Pro is still from 2010, that means no USB3, no TB, no SATA-III. no Sandy/Ivy Bridge and so on.

    Mac Pro Server? Never heard of that. I know there have been G5 servers, but I don't know a Mac Pro server.
    The Mac Pro uses server technology anyway, such as Xeon CPUs and ECC RAM.

    Pure render speed, nothing. That's just CPU, nothing else.
    But a SSD is definately something that has to be included in every high-end machine. You will feel your machine is 10x faster. Faster Boot (under 10s in a RAID0), apps open faster (I don't even see the C4D loading screen, it opens directly in just 2-4 seconds) and everything.

    Do not ever buy that stuff from Apple. Everything of what you mentioned costs about twice as much.
    A Mac Pro uses standart components - it's actually easy to find them.
    Be sure to buy ECC RAM, this is very imprtant. Otherwise, the CPU won't be able to use the RAM.
    In terms of GFX cards - here on the forum you'll find several threads of how to put a officially unsupported card into a Mac Pro.
    I did put in a GTX 570 in mine, and I love it.

    Read these 3 threads:

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1440150
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1360927
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1385329


    These are also useful:

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1280517
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1122551
    (In the Mac Pro, you can update the CPU yourself. Careful, you'll loose warranty.)


    Cheers.
     
  3. JordanSimps thread starter macrumors newbie

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    What's a good amount of space I should have on my SSD?

    Would you recommend this card to me for what I want to get out of my Mac Pro? If so, where could you recommend the cheapest price for this GFX Card? I noticed Newegg doesn't carry this at the moment.

    EDIT: I just looked at the price of that GFX Card and it's on the expensive side for me. Any other GFX Card that is recommended that is in the $200-$300 range?
     
  4. El Awesome macrumors 6502

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    I have one 128Gb SSD for Mac OS X and another one for Win7. Depending on how much Apps you have, I would say a 256GB is best. I don't have very much, so a 128Gb was sufficent for me. I only have the System and the apps on the SSD, nothing more.

    Yes, it's great. But I took the EFI-flashed one from MacVideoCards, runs PCIe 2.0 speed.
    For Pro apps, it is even better then the Kepler-Cards (GTX 6xx), because they have limited CUDA.
     
  5. JordanSimps thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Can I get a link where you bought this, please?
     
  6. gpzjock, Oct 25, 2012
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    gpzjock macrumors 6502a

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    Mac Pro Server is the replacement for the now deceased Xserve Apple killed off due to lack of interest (read profit), basically a Mac Pro with OS X Server installed not the Client version installed. Same hardware slightly different software. The Mac Mini comes in a server version too.

    ECC RAM is not required in 2009 or later models as long as you replace all the existing ECC RAM with non-ECC RAM. Cheaper, faster RAM on the later models too.

    http://stores.ebay.co.uk/macvidcards
     
  7. JordanSimps thread starter macrumors newbie

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    If I decided to get the 6-Core Mac Pro along with the GTX 570 GFX Card and a SSD how much RAM should I get?
     
  8. El Awesome macrumors 6502

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  10. JordanSimps thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Would this be the one you're talking about?
    Graphic Card
     

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