Help with MS Office for Mac vs. 365

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  1. triple-tap macrumors 6502

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    Hey all,

    If this is in the wrong place, please feel free to move it.

    I currently have office for mac 2011 installed on my rMBP 13"; I am not a fan of the subscription model and refuse to buy Office 365 each year.

    My new employer (law firm) uses Office 365 for document management, outlook, calendars, etc.

    Outlook does not come with Office for Mac 2011 (at least not the one I am using). However, I think I can log-in with my work ID and access my work emails / calendar if I use my work Office 365 login.

    My questions is as follows:
    If I log into the Outlook app with an Office 365 subscription, will it automatically convert all of my other Office for Mac 2011 apps to using Office 365?

    I want to keep my permanent apps on my macbook, and I only want to use the Outlook app for work (to check emails and appointments).

    Does anyone have any insight or experience on this issue?

    Thanks in advance

    (Also, I tried to ask on the Office forum, and every answer was slightly different... and, of course, I don't totally trust those MS employees completely when it comes to Mac compatibility).
     
  2. Darth.Titan macrumors 68030

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    You mean you're just logging into Outlook.com from home?

    If so, the answer is no. That will not affect your installed apps in any way.
     
  3. Silencio macrumors 68020

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    Office 2011 and Office 365 / 2016 can coexist on the same machine. Or you can specify that you only want to install Outlook 15 and skip Word, Excel, etc. when you install Office 365.

    I guess your version of Office 2011 is the Home & Student Edition? Office 2011 Professional did come with Outlook.
     
  4. triple-tap thread starter macrumors 6502

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    No. I know that I can log into the outlook.com website without any issues.

    My question was regarding the actual Outlook app that is installed as part of Office for Mac 2011 (but not really usable unless you pay $$$ to upgrade or use an Office 365 subscription)
     
  5. triple-tap thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I think I do have the Home&Student edition. The actual Outlook application is downloaded as part of the Home&Student edition, but when you click on the icon, it stated you must upgrade or sign into office 365. Hence my question.
     
  6. AFEPPL macrumors 68030

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    Home and Student edition shouldnt be used for business use, you need the home and business edition which contains Outlook.

    Subscription is the way of thing
    Id rather own it too, but just about all companies are now going down the subscription model - no doubt to reduce the impact of a one off upfront cost as well as prevent piracy.
     
  7. triple-tap, Aug 20, 2015
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    You are missing the question... maybe I am not being clear.

    I don't want to use my personal laptop to create or edit docs for work. I ONLY want to be able to access email and my calendar on my personal laptop. And this means using Outlook (as our whole firm uses this as the master calendar and main medium for communication).

    I do not want to lose my personal Office of Mac 2011 applications.
     
  8. AFEPPL macrumors 68030

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    yes - but you said you want to connect outlook to your business email address.
    Outlook is not part of the home edition (hence the prompt to upgrade) and this edition is not meant to be connected to a profit making business... that's the other edition.

    Ask your employer to provide you with the software you need or use 365.
     
  9. ocabj macrumors 6502a

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    You can access your work Outlook account on Office 365 via web only, and it won't affect your desktop apps that are installed independent / prior to Office 365. It's OWA : Outlook Web Access. It will give you mail, calendar, contact, etc., access via your browser. Doesn't require installing anything on your laptop aside.
     
  10. triple-tap thread starter macrumors 6502

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    You also miss the point of my question
     
  11. triple-tap thread starter macrumors 6502

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    You also fail to be of any help at all. you are too concerned with using office for profit or not. Take your high horse and ride off.
     
  12. triple-tap thread starter macrumors 6502

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    mods can close it. Silencio was the only one who was remotely helpful
     
  13. ocabj macrumors 6502a

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    What?

    This is what you asked: "If I log into the Outlook app with an Office 365 subscription, will it automatically convert all of my other Office for Mac 2011 apps to using Office 365?" and, "I don't want to use my personal laptop to create or edit docs for work. I ONLY want to be able to access email and my calendar on my personal laptop. And this means using Outlook (as our whole firm uses this as the master calendar and main medium for communication)."

    I'm saying OWA is independent of your installed applications. You login to the Outlook WA with your Office 365 account, and you're all good. It doesn't do anything to your 2011 apps. OWA also lets you do exactly what you stated you wanted: access your Office 365 / Outlook email and calendar from your personal laptop.

    Now if what you're asking is if you *DOWNLOAD* Outlook 2015/2016, install it on your computer, and activate it, then ok, I guess my response wasn't completely applicable. But you should have specifically stated that's what you were wanting to do. All you indicated was that you were logging into the Outlook app.

    But anyway, you're right, Silencio already answered your question.
     
  14. campyguy macrumors 68040

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    I'm coming in late to this thread. I think that I can offer some help. Yes, MS Office 2011 Professional contains Outlook 2011; I own a 2-install license, purchased some time ago. I also use Office 365 - both the Home version and the Business Premium version; both include up to 5 installations of either Office 2011 or Office 2016 (or Office 2013 for Windows) - the Office 365 user portal provides downloads for each version of Office. During the install of either Office 2011 or 2016, the installer can choose which application(s) to install - down to segregating out just Outlook, and that installation is reflected in the user's Office 365 portal - the credentials of the user are entered during the installation process, and the credentials are the username (an email address used to log in to the Office 365 portal) and either the user's portal password or 2-factor password (I use the latter), and these credential do not have to be someone's email account. I use that same account to allocate an installation of Office 2013 that I use in a Windows 10 Parallels Desktop virtual machine.

    Yes, Outlook 2016 can coexist with the remaining Office 2011 apps - with a caveat. The Office 365 applications - all of them - are modified in order to collaborate via Office 365's portals, including SharePoint and OneDrive and MS has been very clear with this. If you're simply using email/calendering/contacts/LDAP then either Outlook 2011 (from a direct purchase or Office 365) or 2016 should suffice.

    And, no, updating to any of the 2016 Office apps will not affect your 2011 workflow. Outlook 2016 uses a very different caching system; the Office 2016 apps have all of the support files (fonts, dictionaries, spell checkers) built in as opposed to the single-folder support for Office 2011. The export/import features for Outlook 2016 are very limited - AFAIK, Outlook 2016 has no export capabilities; we leave everything on our servers anyway but this might be of significance to you and your firm's workflow.

    MS has indicated that Office 2016 will be available for retail sale next month, about the time colleges start their sessions in earnest; my private alma mater started up last week. My rep has also told me that each app will be available individually, along with assertive upgrade pricing. MS has a major event scheduled next month to announce their new Surface and other toys, and it's likely an updated version of the Windows suite and standalone Mac suite will be announced.

    Also, you should know that MS also offers a "work at home" package - the Home Use Program, and they've offered it for over a decade AFAIK. It's the best $10 deal you'll find in the working world. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/lic...rams/software-assurance-home-use-program.aspx - I use it for some of my employees. Now, chill out and get back to work! :D
     
  15. AFEPPL macrumors 68030

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    Not at all - you continually failed to understand you don't get outlook at part of the package you have.... in the same way your mac doesn't come with a foldout 52" TV so asking where it is is pointless!

    You and your lame donkey failed to read basic english, outlook is part of the "business edition" and if you want that application "on your PC" (like you asked) you need to buy it first. OWA is not a local app, it's a web service, maybe you should get you horse to ask the correct questions?

    Hopefully your attitude towards those trying to guide you will come to your employers attention quickly and he can remedy his hire error..!
     
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    [MOD NOTE]
    I think at this point closing this thread is the best.
     
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