Help with Windows + Bootcamp Driver

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  1. DimitriVetrov macrumors newbie

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    To be clear. This is NOT for my bootcamp install, this works fine..


    I just need to know, so my other windows computers can read Mac OS Journaled volumes, which drivers in apple's download (the one that comes with boot camp assistant) allow windows to read Mac OS Journaled?


    Please don't tell me to buy Macdrive, I am aware that is an option and refuse to buy it / use it. I also know HFSExplorer is an option, and I don't want it. Thanks!

    I could install the whole package, but I don't want a bunch of unnecessary drivers running just for the one that allows me to view MacOSJ

    I was thinking the suspect driver is either "AppleODDInstaller64" or "AppleNullDriver64", but I'm unsure.

    Any and all help is much appreciated.
     
  2. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    You just ruled out the two most common and viable solutions to your problem, with no justifying explanation. There is no reason not to use either of those apps, as they have a long history of successfully doing the job that you require.
     
  3. DimitriVetrov thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I don't want to pay for commercial software for something that Apple Drivers (which I have legally acquired and am entitled to) will provide. And that company behind Macdrive is sketchy + I don't want to install pirated software on these computers that I'm going to be using. And HFSExplorer is read only, so that rules it out. I just need to know the name of the driver that will provide the function that I require.
     
  4. Macman45 macrumors demi-god

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    Apart from a totally random hit and miss approach, you really don't have any option but to use the tried and trusted applications you yourself suggest.

    You could start digging around and never find the culprit...or you night get lucky. I'd take GGJ's advice personally.
     
  5. DimitriVetrov thread starter macrumors newbie

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    How could I never find the culprit? There are like 10 apple drivers..? The rest are graphics and bluetooth related.
     
  6. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    I understand not wanting to pay for software, but MacDrive is not sketchy at all. It is not pirated software, unless you get it from a torrent or other questionable source. I'm not aware of any driver that will provide the function that you want. I would think that after all these years, if there was such a solution, it would've become common knowledge by now.
     
  7. DimitriVetrov thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Do you know the name of the correct Apple driver or not?


    I was saying I could pirate it but I don't want illegitimate software running on family members computers. And I think paying $50 for a function that should be free is absurd. Maybe thats just me, also I'd rather have support from Apple instead of a third party company that probably just repackages the same driver functionality.

    My next option is to just install all of the drivers and uninstall when I'm done with them or keep them on there if they don't use much/any memory
     
  8. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    There is no such driver.
    Just because someone expects a free solution doesn't mean one is available. Apple has no obligation to support Windows and vice versa.
     
  9. DimitriVetrov thread starter macrumors newbie

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    How is there no such driver?

    Prior to installing the bootcamp drivers, my windows partition is unable to read my external HD. After I install the drivers, the partition is able to read my external HD.

    Either a driver or some kind of dark magic.
     
  10. GGJstudios, Nov 18, 2013
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    GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    What format is your external HDD? Installing Boot Camp does not give your Windows installation the ability to read/write HFS+ volumes.

    Another option is to buy Paragon HFS+, which is less expensive than MacDrive.
     
  11. DimitriVetrov thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Mac OS Extended Journaled.


    I just want to have 1 hard drive to share between mac and windows without that pain-in-the ass 4GB limit. Mac can't work with NTFS and Winblows can't work with MOSEJ, so I need to figure which driver in the "Bootcamp" folder is allowing Windows to read my external hard drive.
     
  12. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    Yes, OS X can work with NTFS and there is also exFAT. This may clear some things up for you.

    Format A Hard Drive Using Disk Utility (which is in your /Applications/Utilities folder)
    Choose the appropriate format:
    HFS+ (Hierarchical File System, a.k.a. Mac OS Extended (Journaled) Don't use case-sensitive) NTFS (Windows NT File System)
    • Read/Write NTFS from native Windows.
    • Read only NTFS from native Mac OS X [*]To Read/Write/Format NTFS from Mac OS X, here are some alternatives:
      • For Mac OS X 10.4 or later (32 or 64-bit), install Paragon (approx $20) (Best Choice for Lion and later)
      • For 32-bit Mac OS X, install NTFS-3G for Mac OS X (free) (does not work in 64-bit mode)
      • For 64-bit Snow Leopard, read this: MacFUSE for 64-bit Snow Leopard
      • Some have reported problems using Tuxera (approx $36).
      • Native NTFS support can be enabled in Snow Leopard and Lion, but is not advisable, due to instability.
    • AirPort Extreme (802.11n) and Time Capsule do not support NTFS
    • Maximum file size: 16 TB
    • Maximum volume size: 256TB
    • You can use this format if you routinely share a drive with multiple Windows systems.
    exFAT (FAT64)
    • Supported in Mac OS X only in 10.6.5 or later.
    • Not all Windows versions support exFAT. See disadvantages.
    • exFAT (Extended File Allocation Table)
    • AirPort Extreme (802.11n) and Time Capsule do not support exFAT
    • Maximum file size: 16 EiB
    • Maximum volume size: 64 ZiB
    • You can use this format if it is supported by all computers with which you intend to share the drive. See "disadvantages" for details.
    FAT32 (File Allocation Table)
    • Read/Write FAT32 from both native Windows and native Mac OS X. [*]Maximum file size: 4GB.
    • Maximum volume size: 2TB
    • You can use this format if you share the drive between Mac OS X and Windows computers and have no files larger than 4GB.
     
  13. DimitriVetrov thread starter macrumors newbie

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    If I make it exFAT, it will be able to be read by both?

    I always did journaled though so I guess that will work so long as it stays between both. Doesn't help me much though because the drive with all the files is already formatted as Journaled.
     
  14. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    Yes, exFAT can be read/written by both OS X and Windows, as already stated. All the details for each format are included in my last post.
     

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