Here Are the Macs Compatible With macOS Golden Gate

[jchap]

I bought a '19 Macbook pro for cheap 2 years ago when it was still supported, knowing quite well that it was not going to last very long.
At last it"s still running current macos as of today
Now it lost even more value..

It hasn’t lost its value if it still does what you needed it to do when you bought it.

Just because the OS can’t be updated anymore doesn’t make it a worthless tool, does it? I used to own a 2019 MacBook Pro (16-inch) as well, and I liked the keyboard and the display, even though the fan noise became bothersome.

 

[TsMkLg068426]

I guess the new iMacs are stuck at Strait from Harvoos.

 

[svish]

Good to know about this. However only Macs with more RAM might be getting all the new Apple Intelligence features.

 

[emulator]

Wow, with no Intel code base (supposedly), it's still more than 19.1GB.

 

[OldNewMBP]

Awww, I still can't get to MacOS 27 with my 2012 MBP? What a shame. Oh well, might as well STILL wait on OCLP version 3.0.0.

 

[visualseed]

They have removed native x86 architecture support from the operating system and system apps, along with Intel, AMD, and NVIDIA drivers. However, Rosetta is still included in macOS 27 Golden Gate, so you can continue using existing Intel-only applications without any issues. 😉

Anyway, they have completely restored the window sidebar to the Sequoia style and toned down the overall roundness of windows, which had become a bit too exaggerated in the previous version. From both a usability and aesthetic standpoint, these are changes that can only be appreciated.

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I was able to install Rosetta 2. It did a first launch install which is something it did not do when I upgraded to OS26, so I suspect Apple is doing what they can to cut their licensing costs for it and it doesn't install if you don't need it. But Rosetta (X86) support for apps was supposed to go away in this version. At least that is what all the nagging messages I got over the last year told me.

If anyone at Apple is reading this I would be more than happy to pay an annual license for Rosseta from you or a blessed third-party vendor to keep the support.

 

[BeatCrazy]

Looks like this will be the last OS for M1.

Highly unlikely. 2-3 more years. Maybe 4.

 

[switz]

The challenge is Siri AI supposedly will require M3 or higher for some specific items that were not programmed on the M1 to M2 chips.

 

[visualseed]

The challenge is Siri AI supposedly will require M3 or higher for some specific items that were not programmed on the M1 to M2 chips.

I think Siri will still perform them it will just be handled by Apple's private cloud servers. This will be true of any mac with less than 12GB of ram too. The MacBook Neo and older M1/2 MacBooks will almost certanly support every feature. Just not everything on device with local models.

 

[switz]

We should know the answers by this time next year when the "27" series software is at 27.6 or wherever the last number lands. Until then, this is all conjecture on the usability of the Siri "stuff" on the Neo and early "M" class processors. While my M1 Ultra Studio has 128GB of memory and a 8TB SDSD, the firmware baked into the M1 Ultra chip does not have the latest "tweaks" that have been programmed into the newer generation "M" chips.

That is a fact associated with the word "progress". Just like the Motorola, Power PC and Intel chips have fallen away, the early generation of the "M" chips will also fall off the tree like leaves in the fall from a tree..This is the reality we all face. The equipment will still di the tasks that it did when new, but newer tasks that were never envisioned are a "maybe" or most likely a "no".

That does not mean I plan to acquire any new Apple gear soon as long as what I do now can continue until those programs no longer are supported by the current operating systems.

 

[dandeco]

I'm glad my M1 MacBook Air makes the grade, of course. My 2019 16" Intel Core i7 MacBook Pro not doing so, I don't mind that very much, since I only got it as kind of a "backup" Mac for any tasks that may still require an Intel-based model (like virtualizing an x86 version of Windows efficiently, or DVD ripping, since Apple Silicon Macs seem to still kind of struggle with that), as my M1 Air even manages to slightly outperform this 16" Intel MacBook Pro.
Mac OS '27 Golden Gate really seems to be evoking Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard; it's the first one to only support the current system chip design (Intel for Snow Leopard, Apple Silicon for Golden Gate), the last to include a version of Rosetta, and also largely focuses on performance and stability fixes.

 

[Jeeve Stubbs]

Highly unlikely. 2-3 more years. Maybe 4.

I agree with you from a technical viewpoint. But Apple often bases its compatibility decisions on sales objectives, and we've just had a proof of this recently: it just announced that iOS 27 won't be compatible with iPhone 11. Since iOS 27 brings no new things, only improvements of current features and bug corrections, it makes no technical sense that iOS 26 would work with iPhone 11 but not iOS 27. So even if macOS 28 would, again, only bring minor improvements over macOS 27, I have a feeling Apple will use the new OS as an excuse to start phasing out M1. We'll see.

 

[BeatCrazy]

I agree with you from a technical viewpoint. But Apple often bases its compatibility decisions on sales objectives, and we've just had a proof of this recently: it just announced that iOS 27 won't be compatible with iPhone 11. Since iOS 27 brings no new things, only improvements of current features and bug corrections, it makes no technical sense that iOS 26 would work with iPhone 11 but not iOS 27. So even if macOS 28 would, again, only bring minor improvements over macOS 27, I have a feeling Apple will use the new OS as an excuse to start phasing out M1. We'll see.

iPhone 11 supports iOS 27, per Apple's website as of now. What am I missing?

Either way, the iPhone 11 is different than M1 (MacBook Air, especially). The M1 Air was available until very recently via Walmart as a special distribution channel in coordination with Apple. The M1 Air was really the 'first Neo', meant to pull in first-time Mac users at an appealing $600 price point.

They're not gonna dump the M1 so soon after hundreds of thousands (many of them first time Mac owners) just bought it.

 

[Jeeve Stubbs]

iPhone 11 supports iOS 27, per Apple's website as of now. What am I missing?

Either way, the iPhone 11 is different than M1 (MacBook Air, especially). The M1 Air was available until very recently via Walmart as a special distribution channel in coordination with Apple. The M1 Air was really the 'first Neo', meant to pull in first-time Mac users at an appealing $600 price point.

They're not gonna dump the M1 so soon after hundreds of thousands (many of them first time Mac owners) just bought it.

My bad. You're right: Apple confirmed this week that iOS 27 will work with iPhone 11 after all, unlike what rumors had claimed.
So that example wasn't a good one, and I'll use another one instead: Apple Watch Series 8, compatible with watchOS 26 but not watchOS 27. One wonders what is so demanding in watchOS 27 that Series 8 can't handle.
Hopefully you're right with M1 - we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[BeatCrazy]

My bad. You're right: Apple confirmed this week that iOS 27 will work with iPhone 11 after all, unlike what rumors had claimed.
So that example wasn't a good one, and I'll use another one instead: Apple Watch Series 8, compatible with watchOS 26 but not watchOS 27. One wonders what is so demanding in watchOS 27 that Series 8 can't handle.
Hopefully you're right with M1 - we'll just have to wait and see.

Indeed the watchOS exclusions are a bit baffling... but I contend watches are different. Are you really missing that much if you're stuck on an older watchOS? It's not like websites stop working, or you get some revolutionary new functionality. With a watch, there's typically more more hardware limitations (like 5G) than software limitations.