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You could give criminals all the code and all the tools to do this and they still wouldn't be able to pull it off in the real world.

they'd have to go round stealing phones to try and find some with the combination here and on the off chance none of those people notciced they'd have had their payment terminal blocked by the provider either before or soon after they did the first fraudlent transaction and wouldn't be able to access any of the funds.
 
Is "Express Transit" mode a US thing only? Also, is it enabled by default??? I don't have that as an option in Australia (iPhone 13 pro), but if I had it I would not turn it on. To pay here on public transport or anywhere really, it's easy enough to double-click on the side button to bring up the wallet. If you don't double-click on the side button, no payment can go through.

It’s not US only, but not sure if your city/transport authority has to opt in. It allows you to pay for transport without double clicking/unlocking to open.

 
OK, I just read this… Ten minutes later, I figured out how I could exploit this at scale. The method the researchers used was complex, but only because it was a demo.



The trick for wide-scale fraud involves making a device that to the back-end Visa processing system seems to be a transit turnstile, but to the user looks like (say) a gasoline pump at the gas station or maybe a vending machine that dispenses soda cans.

Details are not hard to work out.

My dad owned barber shops and salesmen would come to him with proposals like "Can I place this soda machine or Xerox copy machine or whatever in your shop? You can have 20% off the top of gross sales." Many small-time shop owners went with it. My dad, no, he simply gave away free soda and coffee and use of the copy machine to customers because he knew that every person taking the free stuff would also hand him $20+ for what he was really trying to sell.

But many people put these machines in their shops via small-time salesmen they don't know, and these machines could be rigged to steal from 0.1% of the customers. That means only 1 in 1,000 people who buy a soda can get ripped off for $5,000 or whatever. Not enough to make it obvious or for the word to spread. The salesmen might not even know the machines are rigged as they get them from an upstream supplier. The supplier, if he is smart, lets the machine run legally for months or years until, say, a few hundred of them are installed. Then one day he slips a switch, and 500 machines start stealing $5,000 a day until the operation is detected and shut down. But by that time, the thief has his $100,000,000 and is gone. The thief does not even have to invest money, as soda can sales fund the cost of the 500 machines.

Yes, this could be done at scale.
 
Sure Apple is technically right that the hack is limited to Visa but uh, why is Apple even processing $10k payments through a mechanism intended for "Express Transit" in the first place? That's only designed to let you tap your phone or watch at a turnstile. Limit it to $50 or something reasonable. And if it needs to do more, force the user to at least go through the regular Apple Pay process.
 
"cardholders are protected by Visa's zero liability policy"

Yes... I've heard that before. What they say is they won't do much to improve security, because it's more expensive to do just that compared to just reimburse the customers whose accounts got hacked.
 
Here comes every news outlet with a sensationalized headline soon !
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Soooo this is clickbait? Based on the level of expertise, software, hardware and circumstances required this is non-issue that's probably already been patched up?
“Probably already been patched up” you clearly didn’t watch or read the post. It’s still exploitable and visa said they are not patching it.
 
Is "Express Transit" mode a US thing only? Also, is it enabled by default??? I don't have that as an option in Australia (iPhone 13 pro), but if I had it I would not turn it on. To pay here on public transport or anywhere really, it's easy enough to double-click on the side button to bring up the wallet. If you don't double-click on the side button, no payment can go through.
It’s available in Sydney with Opal card readers as well. Not US only by a long shot. Used it in London too as well as…the US.
 
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> Visa has made it clear that their cardholders are protected by Visa's zero liability policy.

The bank will say that transaction is authorized by face id, close the case and send you to collections if you don't pay...
 
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> Visa has made it clear that their cardholders are protected by Visa's zero liability policy.

The bank will say that transaction is authorized by face id, close the case and send you to collections if you don't pay...
There's many avenues you can take, because the "merchant" also would have had to do this with a merchant account, which means you can go after that quite easily. Even in the video, you can see them use a Square terminal.
 
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