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I’m paid by bank, have a bank account, pay very few bills through my bank account and the money left over I draw out every time money sits there.
Are you the dude that goes to city hall to pay the water bill with cash?

Admittedly, I only keep an emergency-funds level of money in my checking account. I keep most of my money in a handful of investment accounts and run most of my transactions through credit cards.
 
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Not at all. Worked well for me for the last 10yrs
Why would I need to put my money into a bank? The interest is meaningless as I already have a comfortable life and need for nothing. My bills are so low it’s laughable (solar panels and battery array so no utilities, £612 a year water rates and then I have food to pay for (again cheaper as my sister has a big allotment and I don’t pay for veg or eggs all year round)). I don’t drive a lot but when I do it’s quite often in Europe so the fuel is cheaper. I did look into having more solar to charge an electric car but i didn’t have the room needed and the motorhome is far too heavy to convert to electric. My reason for commenting is that I see this, literally, every single day. People hung up on crypto, yields, profit, interest rates. Just get your monthly house bills down as much as possible and put the spare money into a safe and all the financial industry becomes meaningless.
The problem is that your cash is losing its purchasing power. Had you kept it in some relatively safe investment 10 years ago, you'd have more than you have now. It's admirable that you don't spend much, but it's honestly just bad financial management to keep your money in cash. At some point, you literally won't have any cash left because you won't be able to afford anything that you need.
 
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I'll concede that past performance is not indicative of future performance. But I'm sure glad that I didn't buy gold instead of stocks & index funds over the last 45 years. And I'm sticking with that successful model. 45 years ago, January 1979, Gold was $1,020.94/oz. Today, it's $2,047.40. You'd think "Hey, 100% appreciation, that's great!" However, the S&P 500 index was 448.79 in 1979. It is 4927.57. So instead of doubling our money with gold, a passive S&P index fund would have returned 10 TIMES the initial investment, net of expenses.

So I'm going to pass on the shiny stuff.
Whenever one tells a gold bug that they switch into justification via post apocalyptic scenarios.
 
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Always the same suggestion when somebody doesn’t rely on the financial market lol. I’m paid by bank, have a bank account, pay very few bills through my bank account and the money left over I draw out every time money sits there. Why is that so alien? It’s only alien to those totally hooked on zeros and finance. As I’ve said previously, it’s IMPOSSIBLE for me to be some kind of criminal given that the very people I sub to are the people that would know. Try it some time, come off the treadmill. You might enjoy the exercise.
So I'm not the first to notice your suspicious affair with cash!
 
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Whenever one tells a gold bug that they switch into justification via post apocalyptic scenarios.
In the event of an apocalypse, I'd advise that gold bug to use his stash to buy food, water, and guns. Lots of guns. Because people/zombies are coming for him and his supplies. After watching the entire "Walking Dead" series, it's become clear that we have more to fear from the survivors than from the zombies.
 
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Whenever one tells a gold bug that they switch into justification via post apocalyptic scenarios.
I will say, I bought mid five figures of gold in 2000, at an average or $300/oz. As a diversification position to today, I’m okay with the 6.5x return it has yielded.

Married with a bunch of NFLX, AAPL, MSFT, BKNG among others since that time, overall returns are ~ 20x In that time frame. I LIKE having the gold position now (it’s regionally distributed) but wouldn’t add to it at all at these prices ~ $2000/oz
 
The problem is that your cash is losing its purchasing power. Had you kept it in some relatively safe investment 10 years ago, you'd have more than you have now. It's admirable that you don't spend much, but it's honestly just bad financial management to keep your money in cash. At some point, you literally won't have any cash left because you won't be able to afford anything that you need.
But I don’t care as my monthly bills are so small I’ll take the loss of interest/gains for the ability to have a nice sleep knowing that banks aren’t making off me. My life, my rules. Each to their own.
 
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Nonsense.

We keep a tiny float 50-200$ in our CU checking acct. The minimum 5$ in our CS savings acct.

All other incoming cash goes straight to Apple gs HYSA. Once a month on 25th (formerly on 20th but then GS sped up ACH pushes) before our bills are due (I’ve timed all our payments for the 27th of month) we move the necessary lump sum to the CU ckg acct to cover.

Been doing since the GS hysa opened and it works perfectly.
I don’t think you understood the context of my post.
 
I don’t think you understood the context of my post.
So then make it clear for us.

I think you may be making a distinction without difference possibly based on outmoded understandings of what certain types of accounts are and how they work and relate today.

Just popping in to say “you don’t understand” (what I failed to make clear) isn’t very helpful.
 
So then make it clear for us.

I think you may be making a distinction without difference possibly based on outmoded understandings of what certain types of accounts are and how they work and relate today.

Just popping in to say “you don’t understand” (what I failed to make clear) isn’t very helpful.
I was comparing HYSAs to money market funds, not generic savings accounts, which was apparent from the context of my post. Of course HYSAs are saving accounts and good for many purposes beyond those. I was simply saying they are better for those listed purposes than are MM funds.
 
Just bite the bullet and put your money in Fidelity Government Cash Reserves money market account. 5%, free checking with no limits, deposit checks online, debit card that picks up all fees at any ATM that has a MC/Visa sticker on it. Not FDIC, but only invests in short term (90 days max by law) government issues. Fund has been around for decades, through downturns, recessions including the Great Recession, and never broke the buck. It will always outperform any savings account, and principal is at less risk than a bank savings account (banks fail and it can take months for the FDIC to reimburse what the bank stole from you).

Are you talking about Fidelity Government Cash Reserves (FDRXX)? If so, that's not an account but a money market you can hold in an account. Judging by the rest of your post I'm guessing you are really talking about either a Fidelity Cash Management account or a brokerage account with the uninvested balance kept in FDRXX. Is that right?

I already have a brokerage account with Fidelity but was thinking of getting a Cash Management account.
 
Are you talking about Fidelity Government Cash Reserves (FDRXX)? If so, that's not an account but a money market you can hold in an account. Judging by the rest of your post I'm guessing you are really talking about either a Fidelity Cash Management account or a brokerage account with the uninvested balance kept in FDRXX. Is that right?

I already have a brokerage account with Fidelity but was thinking of getting a Cash Management account.
Well, you open an account, and then select different investment products. Distinction without a major difference. I've never availed myself of any Fidelity's management offerings. And the adviser they suggested for us is a sub-30 year old BBA no doubt with a negative net worth. Probably need an 8 figure portfolio to get the best advisers, not like our low 7 figure account.
 
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Well, you open an account, and then select different investment products. Distinction without a major difference. I've never availed myself of any Fidelity's management offerings. And the adviser they suggested for us is a sub-30 year old BBA no doubt with a negative net worth. Probably need an 8 figure portfolio to get the best advisers, not like our low 7 figure account.
7 figure is fine for getting any quality mgmt products., and no custodian or advisor today lets an advisor make the decisions, they are using recommended portfolio and asset mgmt products and models that come from the top, their investment committee and long used software to do the asset allocation and rebalancing. An advisor just needs to be able to hear some words, ask some questions (from a form), fill things in properly and push it upstream or into the software systems. After that, it’s out of their hands.
 
7 figure is fine for getting any quality mgmt products., and no custodian or advisor today lets an advisor make the decisions, they are using recommended portfolio and asset mgmt products and models that come from the top, their investment committee and long used software to do the asset allocation and rebalancing. An advisor just needs to be able to hear some words, ask some questions (from a form), fill things in properly and push it upstream or into the software systems. After that, it’s out of their hands.
Now that inspires confidence! Said no one ever.
 
We can recommend everyone to have like 5 accounts and then fill them monthly and send the money to where you get high interest. Have a maximum per bank to not exceed and add more accounts.

Every bank may go under anytime so always have multiple banks.
There are way easier ways to get 5% without moving your money around like that.
 
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