Here's KitKat for the Note 3.

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Fernandez21

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Can't wait for this if the performance enhancements are true, this phone is a complete powerhouse and it shouldn't be skipping frames the way it does.
 

Dontazemebro

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Are you sure this isn't a Rick Roll video. Please don't get my hopes up :D

I'll wait for the OTA but if anyone is willing to take the risk, can you report back if ART is available in the developer options.
 
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There are reports that some international phones in poland got the update but only after being connected via Kies, not via OTA.
 

Sensamic

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Are you sure this isn't a Rick Roll video. Please don't get my hopes up :D

I'll wait for the OTA but if anyone is willing to take the risk, can you report back if ART is available in the developer options.
I read it's not available on either the SGS4 or Note 3.

The update merely brings three or four new minor things. No new Samsung or S Pen features.

It's a pretty worthless update IMO.
 

blackhand1001

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I hope Samsung worked on making it not use 1.5gb of ram with no apps open. The moto x and the nexus 5 use over a gig less ram at idle.
 

Sensamic

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sensamic always the pessimist. I remember you saying that in the note 3 thread but I still want a first hand account if this is indeed true.
I'm just repeating what I've read on other places. I obviously don't know for sure, that's why I said "I read that..." :D:D

But it's true that I'm pessimistic when talking about updates that come from other manufacturers...

But there's a reason for it. I've seen manufacturers drop stock Android features on their updates for years, so I'm not surprised if indeed Samsung or other manufacturer don't include ART on their updates.
 

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^ Have you seen samsungs GUI ? They don't exactly go in for great 'ART' anyway :p:p

Still nothing in Kies here ..
 

AQUADock

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sensamic always the pessimist. I remember you saying that in the note 3 thread but I still want a first hand account if this is indeed true.
Actually i'm the who said that and i can confirm from the person who gets the leaks that ART is not in this rom, unfortunately it will most likely stay this way as the builds that get leaked are almost final.
 

blackhand1001

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This is not windows, unused RAM is wasted RAM in Android.
It has a cache of all the programs that are used often. The difference is that stock android only needs around 300mb to run the built in apps etc. Touchwiz is using over 1gb for solely the OS and built in apps its self. Not cached apps.
 

mKTank

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This is not windows, unused RAM is wasted RAM in Android.
Someone hasn't done his research. Unused RAM is wasted RAM in Windows as well. Except Windows 8 uses less RAM than Touchwiz. Yeah, that's pretty sad.