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heres my tv show buisness plan.. any good?

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It's clear you don't want feedback on anything, because medea gave you feedback on the business plan, and you took it personally.

It's flawed because I couldn't see advertisers willing to put money into a show hosted on a free website like youtube. Yes, they want their ads seen, but advertisers would be willing to pay more to have their ad in a more high-traffic professional place.

Rather than try to make a business plan out of this, just go ahead and have fun shooting the show with your friends and posting the episodes on yotube anyway. If enough interest is generated (you'll need more than one episode most likely), then you could probably start hosting it on your own website with the ads.
 
it5five said:
It's flawed because I couldn't see advertisers willing to put money into a show hosted on a free website like youtube. Yes, they want their ads seen, but advertisers would be willing to pay more to have their ad in a more high-traffic professional place.
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advertisers will always pay to have thier ads seen, and certian comanies, (like the ones that would see the ad on youtube in the first place) would be willing to try it because, although it would be a small risk, they would get thier video ads seen by thousands of viewers for a much smaller price. if i were an advertiser, i would make that leap.

edit: and thanks, irmongoose, for the best post i've seen all thread
 
I wish you the best of luck for your project. I don't have good pointers to offer on the business side but I would recommand you pay good attention to the legal side. Do you anyone that could help you with this? Maybe there aren't any problems with your plans but better be safe than sorry.

Also, you should have a look at Youtube's terms of services.

Youtube Terms of Use
5. User Submissions

C. In connection with User Submissions, you further agree that you will not: … iv) post advertisements or solicitations of business: …

YouTube also reserves the right to decide whether Content or a User Submission is appropriate and complies with these Terms of Service for violations other than copyright infringement and violations of intellectual property law, such as, but not limited to, pornography, obscene or defamatory material, or excessive length.

6. Warranty Disclaimer
YOUTUBE DOES NOT WARRANT, ENDORSE, GUARANTEE, OR ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY PRODUCT OR SERVICE ADVERTISED OR OFFERED BY A THIRD PARTY THROUGH THE YOUTUBE WEBSITE … OR OTHER ADVERTISING, AND YOUTUBE WILL NOT BE A PARTY TO OR IN ANY WAY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING ANY TRANSACTION BETWEEN YOU AND THIRD-PARTY PROVIDERS OF PRODUCTS OR SERVICES.
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I'm no legal expert so don't really know if your project would violate the term of services. Maybe you could contact a Youtube representative and make sure.

Oh! you could also consider a different approach: Host episodes on your site, distribute for free, put a Paypal donations button at the bottom. Might be much for simpler to set up. Just an idea I'm pitching.
 
srobert said:
I wish you the best of luck for your project. I don't have good pointers to offer on the business side but I would recommand you pay good attention to the legal side. Do you anyone that could help you with this? Maybe there aren't any problems with your plans but better be safe than sorry.

Also, you should have a look at Youtube's terms of services.



(uppercase emphasis not mine)

I'm no legal expert so don't really know if your project would violate the term of services. Maybe you could contact a Youtube representative and make sure.

Oh! you could also consider a different approach: Host episodes on your site, distribute for free, put a Paypal donations button at the bottom. Might be much for simpler to set up. Just an idea I'm pitching.
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i like the paypal idea, but am worried it won't even cover the cost of hosting the show, not to mention the production costs. now maybe if i hosted it myself, and had the ads in the content...
 
virus1 said:
if i were an advertiser, i would make that leap.
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But the thing is you are not an advertiser, you are 14 and really have no clue about marketing. Advertisers definitely will not "always pay to have their ads seen." You say their ads will be seen by thousands of viewers but how exactly will you be able to guarantee this? I truly don't believe you have much going for you with your idea that will entice any company to advertise with you. Go ahead and prove me wrong though, I hope you are successful because I wish failure upon no one. You just seem a bit smug for someone who really doesn't know what they are talking about yet assumes they have no flaws in their plans. If you didn't want input then why ask? No one here has agreed with you that your plan will be successful so perhaps you should rethink it.

This is not a personal thing so I don't know why you are taking it so personally. Once again I will suggest you check out this site http://www.channel102.net/index.php . I believe you would be better off testing peoples reaction to your show or general ideas by posting it on a site such as Channel 102 instead of assuming it's the best thing since LOST.
 
medea said:
But the thing is you are not an advertiser, you are 14 and really have no clue about marketing. Advertisers definitely will not "always pay to have their ads seen." You say their ads will be seen by thousands of viewers but how exactly will you be able to guarantee this? I truly don't believe you have much going for you with your idea that will entice any company to advertise with you.
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oh so i assume you have a clue about marketing. what ever your profession is, i am sure they teach you all you need to know about advertising, and what advertisers will do, and i am proud of you for that. listen, you seem to think that what i say is limited to what i have learned by my own life experience in the past 14 years. i have already consulted an advertising professional, (besides you of course) and the general feedback that i recieved was that it would work, because the consumers would see it for a much smaller price than usual, because this is a new concept. (even though it is not actually new). i don't see you telling abc the same thing, and if i did, i guarantee you that i would laugh. (out loud ;)).
Go ahead and prove me wrong though, I hope you are successful because I wish failure upon no one. You just seem a bit smug for someone who really doesn't know what they are talking about yet assumes they have no flaws in their plans. If you didn't want input then why ask? No one here has agreed with you that your plan will be successful so perhaps you should rethink it.
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If you bothered to read the above post, you would realize that i did.
This is not a personal thing so I don't know why you are taking it so personally. Once again I will suggest you check out this site http://www.channel102.net/index.php . I believe you would be better off testing peoples reaction to your show or general ideas by posting it on a site such as Channel 102 instead of assuming it's the best thing since LOST.
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i did check that site out. and while i apprecieate your effort to communicate, i don't understand how you think that me refrencing lost translates to thinking that "it's the best thing since LOST."
 
I honestly don't know why you bother asking for feedback. medea gave good, realistic advice and you refuse to take it for some reason. No one here is saying you shouldn't go ahead and make your TV show for FUN, but as a business venture your plan is flawed for the many reasons already given.
 
Okay virus1 you are completely right and I am completely wrong. I have no doubt you will be very successful in your venture. You are completely right in comparing yourself to the ABC network. They have only been on air since 1943, are owned by the Walt Disney Corporation and average over 5 million viewers a day. The way the look for advertisers is exactly the same way you should go about it.

Again I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors in internet television.
 
max_altitude said:
I honestly don't know why you bother asking for feedback. medea gave good, realistic advice and you refuse to take it for some reason. No one here is saying you shouldn't go ahead and make your TV show for FUN, but as a business venture your plan is flawed for the many reasons already given.
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i don't know why i have to keep saying these things. either i didn't actually say them, or you didn't read the thread.

i did take the advice of medea. i quoted some other guy with the same idea in post #31. sorry i didnt' actually quote medea, i just thought people would understand that medea thought of it first.

and i also said before that i do not plan on making this into a buisness. i just want to see if i will get the money out of it that i will put into it. the only issue people have found with my buisness plan is that no advertisers will be interested, but i know i can get advertisers. hell, abc did, but abc is a complete failure, right, so i shouldnt' listen to them. :rolleyes:
 
Raven VII said:
You're the guy who wanted to write his own OS aren't you? Phoenix or something?

LOL... so what happened to that one?
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No, that was another guy actually. ;)

Well if you're so sure you can get people to advertise, I don't see what the point of this thread is. Your plan has no flaws and you should go right ahead and execute it.
 
medea said:
Okay virus1 you are completely right and I am completely wrong. I have no doubt you will be very successful in your venture. You are completely right in comparing yourself to the ABC network. They have only been on air since 1943, are owned by the Walt Disney Corporation and average over 5 million viewers a day. The way the look for advertisers is exactly the same way you should go about it.

Again I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors in internet television.
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who ever brought up looking for advertisers? i am sure that method will be quite different.

but otherwise, thank you for your long awaited confidence..
 
virus1 said:
but i know i can get advertisers. hell, abc did, but abc is a complete failure, right, so i shouldnt' listen to them. :rolleyes:
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Once again as I stated in my above post, you are completely right on the money in comparing yourself to abc. Come on virus1 quit typing and go make it happen kid!

But one question, you don't even have to answer this, if you don't intend on making this a business then why do you call it your "tv show business plan?"

Anyways, I hope you at least break even or maybe even become the first 15 year old billionaire by this time next year. I hope you disclose your earnings and statistics in a few months so I can learn from you.

Many thanks,

medea.
 
medea said:
Once again as I stated in my above post, you are completely right on the money in comparing yourself to abc. Come on virus1 quit typing and go make it happen kid!
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a. thanks for the confidence
b. don't call me kid
c. i was kidding (in case you couldn't tell)
d. i was comparing buisness plans
But one question, you don't even have to answer this, if you don't intend on making this a business then why do you call it your "tv show business plan?"
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Well i don't need to answer that because i don't. to clarify, i did, in the title of the thread, because i didn't think it would need to be that specific for everyone to grasp the concept.

yes, it is still titled that, but i reccomend you email jelsoft for that one, mate.
Anyways, I hope you at least break even or maybe even become the first 15 year old billionaire by this time next year.
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as do i.

max_altitude said:
So if you're not going to look for advertisers or hope they seek you out, how do you expect to get any advertising involved?
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i didn't say i wasn't going to look for them. i said i didn't mention it, which was what medea was reffering to.
 
There are many flaws in your various posts since I last posted here but I'm not going to bother responding to them.

What I will say is this.

You started this thread to ask people their honest opinion on your 'business plan'. Many people gave you helpful information *especially* medea and in return you are basically telling them to piss off for giving you constructive criticism.

Now if you really want peoples opinions and ideas, I'd suggest you start being a little more thankful and appreciative, otherwise I'd suggest you PM a mod and ask him/her to lock and wasteland this thread.
 
Here's some advice: don't come asking for feedback when you don't want it. Everyone in this thread gave good advice until you started taking it personally. People were critiquing your idea, which is what you asked for people to do. Nobody was attacking you personally until you came off as this smug 14 year old know-it-all.

Of course, you apparently have skilled producers and actors lined up to make a show with a 14 year old with little to no experience in this area, so who am I to judge? :rolleyes:
 
killuminati said:
There are many flaws in your various posts since I last posted here but I'm not going to bother responding to them.

What I will say is this.

You started this thread to ask people their honest opinion on your 'business plan'. Many people gave you helpful information *especially* medea and in return you are basically telling them to piss off for giving you constructive criticism.

Now if you really want peoples opinions and ideas, I'd suggest you start being a little more thankful and appreciative, otherwise I'd suggest you PM a mod and ask him/her to lock and wasteland this thread.
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dear god, please read post #36 and #44. you would find your post a lot more useless.
it5five said:
Here's some advice: don't come asking for feedback when you don't want it. Everyone in this thread gave good advice until you started taking it personally. People were critiquing your idea, which is what you asked for people to do. Nobody was attacking you personally until you came off as this smug 14 year old know-it-all.
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dear god, please read post #36. you would find your post a lot more useless.
Of course, you apparently have skilled producers and actors lined up to make a show with a 14 year old with little to no experience in this area, so who am I to judge?
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who said producers? who said skilled? and who said a 14 year old who has little to no experience in the area? i have been making movies since i was two.
 
virus1 said:
dear god, please read post #36 and #44. you would find your post a lot more useless.dear god, please read post #36. you would find your post a lot more useless.
who said producers? who said skilled? and who said a 14 year old had little to no experience in the area? i have been making movies since i was two.
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Hey I have an idea. Could you post some of your movies? I'd like to see some work. It would be like taking a glimpse into the life of a blooming savant. It would also get everyone real real excited about your as of yet untitled show. Don't pay attention to the detractors, you go kid!
 
medea said:
Hey I have an idea. Could you post some of your movies? I'd like to see some work. It would be like taking a glimpse into the life of a blooming savant. It would also get everyone real real excited about your as of yet untitled show. Don't pay attention to the detractors, you go kid!
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ill dig something suitable up..

don't call me kid
 
This reminds me of that time when Quentin Tarantino started a thread here asking if his idea for Kill Bill was any good.
 
Can you please post the one you made when you were two? I'm intrigued.

I'm thinking you should ask macgeek2005 to get involved - he could write the score - you two would make a hell of a team.
 
This thread will get out of control! It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it!

OK, so much for the nod to "Red October".

This thread can do nothing but worsen, so I'll stop it before that happens.
 
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