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Here's What the Studio Display's Webcam Looks Like After 15.5 Beta Firmware Update
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Dan - thanks for the video. Did you have center stage on or off? If seems like you had it off, and it looks like Apple lowered the angle of the camera so that it shows more of your head/body in non-center stage mode?
My number one complaint with the Studio Display is in non-center stage mode, it only shows the top of my head and positions it at the bottom of the frame. It's really, really aggravating. I have to angle/tilt the display all the way down just to look semi-normal.
Apple care today advised me that "the camera in non-center stage mode was designed to point straight ahead and that my head being positioned at the bottom of the frame was 'normal' ". Hoping they've fixed this! Thanks!
My number one complaint with the Studio Display is in non-center stage mode, it only shows the top of my head and positions it at the bottom of the frame. It's really, really aggravating. I have to angle/tilt the display all the way down just to look semi-normal.
Apple care today advised me that "the camera in non-center stage mode was designed to point straight ahead and that my head being positioned at the bottom of the frame was 'normal' ". Hoping they've fixed this! Thanks!
The biggest problem for the Studio Display is that there are too many misses for the price that Apple is charging.
If you want to charge like a wounded bull on steroids and plus some, then the quality control must be there in abundance.
If you want to charge like a wounded bull on steroids and plus some, then the quality control must be there in abundance.
The camera is still pretty bad compared to the one in the iMac Pro.
To be honest I never thought there was problem with the original firmware. I do, however, think there will always be never-satisfied nerds screaming their lungs out about something.
It looks... basically the same? I can't understand why they didn't just put a better camera in there.
If truly representative, I'd be totally satisfied with the iMac Pro camera, way back from 2017:
The Studio Display camera looks quite crappy in comparison.
This is one of the most important points IMO, but so far nobody has specifically mentioned this.
I think it looks a little bit better with the new firmware but lighting is not good on both samples. It will probably take a few tries for Apple to get it.
Update: Apparently the update didn’t “take” the first time I downloaded it, as the display was still running iOS 15.5. I had to let the Mac restart itself (rather than click “Restart”) for it to properly install on the ASD (I’ll be reporting that bug).
It does seem a bit less grainy and skin tones a bit more natural, but it is still a modest improvement.
It looks like:
My iMac 2017: Mediocre. No Center Stage.
Studio Display: Mediocre but perhaps a bit better than my iMac 2017, and with Center Stage.
iMac Pro 2017: Way, way better than both of these. No Center Stage.
I wonder if the rumoured mini-LED display actually exists. If so, maybe it would come with a higher end camera, as it would be a higher tier display.
My iMac 2017: Mediocre. No Center Stage.
Studio Display: Mediocre but perhaps a bit better than my iMac 2017, and with Center Stage.
iMac Pro 2017: Way, way better than both of these. No Center Stage.
I wonder if the rumoured mini-LED display actually exists. If so, maybe it would come with a higher end camera, as it would be a higher tier display.
Update has really made a difference to me. Same scene, 20-30 mins apart, still photo using Photo Booth. Lighting and everything the same. Big improvement for me personally.
It would of been better if they offered a full size nicely integrated and designed magnetic detachable webcam as some other displays have, instead of re-using an iPad camera from the parts bin. After all you are paying big bucks for this display.
So for me this firmware update made a huge difference. These are awful photos of me but they do illustrate the difference.
1st is before
2nd is after
1st is before
2nd is after
Thanks for the video really!
it doesn't seem like it's a flip of a switch or something they forgot but rather than trial and error damage control..
it doesn't seem like it's a flip of a switch or something they forgot but rather than trial and error damage control..
Is the webcam different from those used in the M1 iMac?
From what I recall, the reviews were pretty good. They should have just used that same camera for the Studio Display?
From what I recall, the reviews were pretty good. They should have just used that same camera for the Studio Display?
I find it unremarkable that Apple can't get an HD webcam right. I mean HD webcams have only been out on the market for 5 years and it took them forever to get away from 780p and it still looks like a 1st generation webcam from years ago.
It seems to me they just threw this in to the Studio Display to appease customers and did very little testing on it.
It seems to me they just threw this in to the Studio Display to appease customers and did very little testing on it.
I dunno... I think Apple has a different idea of what a good webcam looks like than I do. I find the 16" M1 MBP webcam pretty bland too. I keep trying to clean the glass in front of it. No contrast, no real details, the colors are washed out. I feel like the older generation camera was better-- noisier and it struggled in low light, but I preferred the image. Or maybe just got used to it...
This might just be what happens when you put machine learning between the camera and the screen. Maybe they trained it to boost shadows and pull back the highlights to make it harder to lose exposure on the face in really bad lighting, but...
This might just be what happens when you put machine learning between the camera and the screen. Maybe they trained it to boost shadows and pull back the highlights to make it harder to lose exposure on the face in really bad lighting, but...
Aren’t you generally closer to the iPad and sit further back from a Studio Display by comparison? Maybe sitting closer to the Studio would improve things. Not sure you’d want to use the monitor close up like that though ?
I have no idea of what you are implying here. Please elaborate.
Are these with Center Stage on or off? Could you show an 'after' with center stage off, if you have the time? Thanks!