Here's What's New With Visual Intelligence in iOS 27

[bluecoast]

I'm going to predict that Siri visual intelligence will have an option to be more prevalent in the UI.

I mean who actually scrolls through the camera wheel? Not many I would expect.

 

[MilaM]

The Visual Intelligence mode should be a separate button and not wedged between "Photo" and "Portrait". Otherwise, it's good they have made it more prominent.

And I agree that the nutrition information as presented on the screenshots in the article is not very useful. Who needs an AI to tell them that sugary sweets are not a healthy option? But maybe they will provide more details in a future iteration.

 

[jimbobb24]

It would be an interesting comparison between what apples AI features do and what Pixel does. With Google as the real AI supplier is everything reskinned android AI features (which are great) or is there anything new? Are there features google didnt give apple?

 

[jimbobb24]

Right? Nutrition is complex. Whilst I accept the at least trying to check the nutritional value of food is better than nothing, it can't be reduced to a basic traffic-light system or simple sliding scale. Everyone's needs are different and whilst there are some broadly good and broadly bad food stuffs for everyone, you need to properly understand what you are consuming and why. A quick -"AI says it's good" is not going to do it.

This system is probably useful for nutritionally illiterate people to get some guidance. It's mostly nonsense. Processing isn't inherently bad, sugar isn't inherently bad, as you said it's all complex. But for someone that knows nothing it's a starter point. For people that know anything they aren't going to use it at all.

 

[Will Co]

This system is probably useful for nutritionally illiterate people to get some guidance. It's mostly nonsense. Processing isn't inherently bad, sugar isn't inherently bad, as you said it's all complex. But for someone that knows nothing it's a starter point. For people that know anything they aren't going to use it at all.

I agree, but the concern is people will take some of this incomplete advice as the absolute truth, because AI says so. More fool them, I suppose.

 

[chars1ub0w]

The next model of Visual Intelligence will allow you to take a photo of your wife and answer the question, "Do I look good in this?"

Understand the sarcasm. What would be truly useful if it could give medical advice (which is probably strictly forbidden). E.g. take a picture of a tongue or eye or rash and ask what to do.

 

[lodyug]

Still on the waitlist ....

 

[xaanaax]

Does this work for anyone? Article says iphone 15 pro is required, I’ve got 15 pro max and I can’t see visual intelligence anywhere…

 

[gomichaelgo]

Has anyone successfully tested the bill splitting?

 

[gomichaelgo]

so what action happens when you are on iOS27 and you press physical camera button, now it triggers visual inteligence, is it changing to Siri basically and action button still for something else or how does it work on iOS27? thanks

No, it activates the camera just as it did before, but next to "photo" is "siri" now. If your camera setting is to launch what was last opened then yes it would be open to the siri/visual intelligence, but if you took a photo like normal then it would launch that.

 

[walkin]

And you feel so much better than them, don’t you?
It does work.

Lmao

 

[walkin]

Right? Nutrition is complex. Whilst I accept the at least trying to check the nutritional value of food is better than nothing, it can't be reduced to a basic traffic-light system or simple sliding scale. Everyone's needs are different and whilst there are some broadly good and broadly bad food stuffs for everyone, you need to properly understand what you are consuming and why. A quick -"AI says it's good" is not going to do it.

Not only is nutrition complex, it's beyond absurd to think that a photograph can tell you anything about how healthy a meal of even moderate complexity is — whether it was made with whole grains, how much fat or sodium is in it, what kind of fat, how much protein, whether sugar was added, what all the ingredients are if they were blended. These things just aren't visible. Anyone who has thought about nutrition for more than a minute can understand this. People who keep thinking AI is finally going to work reliably, like magic, are probably the biggest dupes in world history. It's right up there with the monarchy convincing people they ruled by divine right. I feel stupider already just thinking about having to live in a world with this kind of thing.

 

[Schwarzmaler20]

"You can take a picture of a meal or a food item to check its nutritional value. ‌Siri‌ doesn't tell you specific calories in an item, but it can tell you if what you're eating has nutritional value and what's good or bad about it." And you wonder why Generation z turns out to be so peculiar. 😀

 

[Parowdy]

And you feel so much better than them, don’t you?
It does work.

No, it’s doesn’t work, because it physically can’t. You can’t distinguish many meals and foods from each other, you can’t know the amount and kinds of fats in them.
You can get an estimate, you can scan packaging and get the online info.
But you can’t calculate the nutritional value of something by just looking at it, let alone take a picture.

 

[walkin]

"You can take a picture of a meal or a food item to check its nutritional value. ‌Siri‌ doesn't tell you specific calories in an item, but it can tell you if what you're eating has nutritional value and what's good or bad about it." And you wonder why Generation z turns out to be so peculiar. 😀

"That looks like cardboard. It may help to boost your fibre intake, but it probably won't taste very good."

 

[Alfonson]

No, it’s doesn’t work, because it physically can’t. You can’t distinguish many meals and foods from each other, you can’t know the amount and kinds of fats in them.
You can get an estimate, you can scan packaging and get the online info.
But you can’t calculate the nutritional value of something by just looking at it, let alone take a picture.

Of course it’s an estimate wtf are you talking about

 

[Parowdy]

Of course it’s an estimate wtf are you talking about

Worse. It’s a guesstimate. 🙄
It could estimate nutritional values if it had access to your shopping list and a video feed of your kitchen.
But it can only guess the values for a prepared meal or anything that’s not in its original packaging… not that hard to understand so wtf are YOU talking about?
Here’s an example you might be able to understand. Pizza. There’s a lot of vegan and vegetarian pizza around that looks exactly like traditional pizza but has VASTLY different properties. An AI might be able to estimate the values of it if it had access to what was prepared and how.
But the tools we talk about here can do either if you don’t also use them for the recipe, completely negating the feature to “just take a picture”, which will never work. Because it can’t. And maybe it shouldn’t, because AI is already replacing too much of human common sense. And trusting it with your diet will never be a smart move if all the data it has available are singular pictures of prepared meals. Simple as that.