I would love to see Mazda and/or Subaru support… Pipe dream probably.
Thanks, I did not (and still don't) see anything earlier in the thread, but I missed the reference to "Express Mode" in the article itself. Diving into Apple's doc on this, Express Mode can be enabled individually for keys and transit cards (but not payment cards). So it can be required, or not, depending on the user's preference.No, it using Apple car keys does not require Face ID. This has already been address previously in this thread, go back through it if you want a more complete explanation.
My Tesla has had it since 2018!Of course, not a Tesla is listed. Can also do multiple features on the iPhone (lock, change temp, precondition battery, etc...) Can also do with iPad, WATCH and laptop.
My Kia EV6 is very responsive to lock and unlock actions. Just as fast as the fob.Question to those using this feature: Is unlocking as responsive as having a key fob and a push button on the door handle?
To caveat, SE 3rd gen doesn't have UWB and only iPhone 11/Apple Watch 6 or later offers either remote or passive entry with car Apple keys. For cars that support passive entry, there were 4 that started with 2022 models, another 8 with 2023 models, and another 14 with 2024 models. The majority of these were Genesis and BMW vehicles (15/26 of them, and 11/12 prior to 2024).iPhone XS or SE 2nd gen or later, Apple Watch 5 or SE or later.
Add your car key to Apple Wallet on your iPhone or Apple Watch - Apple Support
You can add your car key to the Wallet app, and use your iPhone or Apple Watch to lock, unlock, and start your car.support.apple.com
Technically Android also has its own version of car keys, and there's an open standard called the Car Connectivity Consortium that AFAIK is the backbone of both Apple's and Android's implementations. I believe BMW has gone all in on CCC and it supports the standard on Android and iPhone. But I don't know if anyone else does support Android besides BMW. https://carconnectivity.org/To caveat, SE 3rd gen doesn't have UWB and only iPhone 11/Apple Watch 6 or later offers either remote or passive entry with car Apple keys. For cars that support passive entry, there were 4 that started with 2022 models, another 8 with 2023 models, and another 14 with 2024 models. The majority of these were Genesis and BMW vehicles (15/26 of them, and 11/12 prior to 2024).
Meanwhile Tesla supports Bluetooth as a fallback so all 2021+ vehicles and all 3/Y vehicles have keyless entry with little restriction on the phone (and all 2012+ Teslas supported passive entry and remote features before that). To enhance security with Bluetooth, Tesla supports a PIN to drive (aka 2FA). But UWB is admittedly new to Teslas too and offers better security and consistency. 2021+ Model S/X, 2024+ Model 3, and 2025+ Model Y vehicles support it and it came as a software update at the beginning of 2024.
The benefit of using the Tesla app is it doesn't just work with iPhones, and they can add features on demand instead of waiting for Apple to finalize any specifications. Tesla might end up supporting Apple's Car Keys feature since it doesn't seem to be a Carplay specific feature, but there doesn't seem to be much benefit.
I'm pretending to be the owner's phone. Doesn't seem to help.So how easy is it to steal the listed models by pretending you're the owner's phone?
How do you set it up with the ev6? I cant seem to find how.Add Kia EV6 to this list.
I LOOOOOVE that about my 3 series, one of my fav features. Messes with me when I drive other cars thought 😂 I constantly leave the doors open when I leave lolMore responsive. My BMW unlocks as I approach it (within about 6 feet of the front doors), and locks as I walk away.
It would make no sense for Tesla to support Apple car keys. The is already the key, and you don't need to do anything other than come close to your car and it unlocks. Walk away and it locks. I can open the trunk, turn on the AC, view the cameras and even speak to someone near the car through the external speaker. So the Apple car key would be a big downgrade from what Tesla already has, and no Tesla owner would use it.Yes, very unfortunate that Tesla doesn't support Apple car keys. There's a rational (albeit not very compelling) case for some manufacturers to avoid using CarPlay (preserve complete control over user interface), but I can't think of a defensible reason not to support car keys.
Apple's list is quite outdated now. I did a lot of research to make my own list, spent a lot of time on Google and ChatGPT finding and confirming vehicle models across automaker websites, YouTube video descriptions, etc. I only included models that I could find concrete evidence for, so my list actually isn't as comprehensive as the one available on Wikipedia, since I could not independently confirm some of those. I got fairly close, though.How was this list compiled? That's significantly more car models than officially listed by Apple.
It would be incredibly redundant. I don't think there is a single feature of apple car key that tesla has not already implemented to be the same or better. Other than maybe some cases with pre-ultrawideband teslas I've never heard anyone that has one complain about the key functionalityYes, very unfortunate that Tesla doesn't support Apple car keys. There's a rational (albeit not very compelling) case for some manufacturers to avoid using CarPlay (preserve complete control over user interface), but I can't think of a defensible reason not to support car keys.
Thanks for being thorough with the compilation. That is actually why I asked since I didn't realize some of these models had support. Really wish Apple would keep their databases up-to-date, especially since they're reference links but also since new models are added frequently.Apple's list is quite outdated now. I did a lot of research to make my own list, spent a lot of time on Google and ChatGPT finding and confirming vehicle models across automaker websites, YouTube video descriptions, etc. I only included models that I could find concrete evidence for, so my list actually isn't as comprehensive as the one available on Wikipedia, since I could not independently confirm some of those. I got fairly close, though.