Here's why I can not adjust to android

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  1. unagimiyagi macrumors 6502a

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    Bottom line: maybe I'm picky and I'm not considering bang for the buck that android provides. But what I totally did not realize is this about the galaxy s7 compared to the 6s:

    Why I left (what I thought I was missing):
    --better battery
    --better camera
    --better screen
    --notification light
    --more customization/hackability
    --cheaper, way less expensive real world prices
    --more "open"

    What I think most people don't know or simply for some reason do not care about which is beyond me:

    --the battery life is not much better, if at all a week or two later. Why? Because you will download apps that will somehow be leeching battery juice, yes, even after doze on android 6.0. All that backgrounding does take a toll, those android services. the standby time is way better than it used to be, but it still is not like the iphone, where fully loaded up with apps, the battery barely moves overnight.
    --the camera on the s7 is NOT better than the 6s. The color balance matters, and it's yellow. The raw hardware is better, but the final result, is not. It's oversharpened, by a noticeable amount. And the pro mode is not that "pro" as there is no shutter priority. Get an app for that. I did. The apps don't support Android 6 yet, and the picture quality has dramatically worse quality than the Samsung camera app. There is some image processing that the apps do not have access to or whatever it is, the picture is terrible. So yes I can customize but the end result is worse than the Samsung default camera app. In the end the iphone camera is easily better to me and more reliable. But the Samsung focuses faster. Low light was not a night and day difference to me, especially since I didn't realize how much the yellow color cast would bother me. Yup it's brighter but everything looks yellow. Not a clear win to me, which surprised me.
    --screen is not as peak bright as 6s, but it's not a bad screen, very good but the superhigh res did not matter to me. sunlight legibility was not better than the 6s, which many reviews said it was. It just makes the contrast very milky etc and it's not clear that this is more legible.
    --notification light I thought would be great a la blackberry days . But oddly enough the notifications coming in bothered me (not the light), because I kept having to press "clear" "clear" "clear". Apps would install themselves with a ad banner type bar, or a weather app would install itself in the notification bar, and it was annoying to see these what I'd consider unwanted adware in the notiification bar.
    --the amazing number of ads in apps. It's immediately noticeable. Ads everywhere and very reminiscent of windows laptops vs macs.
    --the app quality, no matter what, is always always always always better on ios. I think it's not just as simple as the money trail. Have you tried to develop for android vs ios? ios is just so much faster. Android development is very bloated and the compatibility libraries and subtle differences between devices make for least common denominator apps with more bugs...or the devs just don't care as much. The app quality is easily poorer for all but the big huge billion dollar companies.
    --UI lag. You've got 8 cores but it's immediately, patently obvious that the way android is designed just is not smooth in the way ios is. Chrome for crying out loud lags when scrolling, or it will after a week. Transitions are jerky at times, etc. Pulling up a context menu, etc. This is immediately apparent to any average ios user. It just doesn't feel "smooth".
    --Unsensible defaults. When I press play on a video link, I get a small tiny window, rather than Safari giving you full attention and turning the video fullscreen. On a device this small, I'd think safari's fullscreen by default, give all your attention to the video, makes sense for most. And right now there's no way to turn this to the default option on my s7.
    --The font system is also off: either too big or too small when adjusting font size in many apps such as chrome, gmail, etc. It seems odd but despite bigger screens, the information being presented is less than the iphone. Or if more than the iphone, the text is too small. Seems to be no middle ground here.
    --Swipe from top of screen to toggle quick controls is not user friendly. Bottom would be better, but that may be for google now.
    --Privacy. Wow. No idea what Google is tracking and why, there's just no confidence there. I think this is a huge bet that only Apple has wagered correctly on. I tried to get ad blocking to work and figured you can't on Chrome, makes sense....that's how Google makes money. But then it seemed odd to have to download an entire separate adblocker browser. Again the sensible default where you add a content filter to Safari. It was effortless.
    --Lack of updates--I have no confidence these bugs will ever get fixed.
    --Better headphone audio quality in iPhone. Music sounds better.
    --there is no such thing as just use it out of the box and go with Android. No way. You've got to tinker and mess with settings and there's constant fiddling around to get the perfect setup. With iPhone it's all works sensibly with default options . I feel strongly that this is not just a familiarity bias. I was with the G1 at the very beginning and iphone was always better in this way.

    I believe there are fundamental, deep problems with android that are not going to be solved unless there is a complete rewrite of the core and a rethinking of the philosophy. I'm really bullish on ios' future simply because the core features, like watching media, reading a website, listening to music, making phone calls, scrolling, etc are all highly intuitive and solid in a way that I do not believe android due to its fragmentation and mindset about the way apps are built are ever going to catch up to. It's open yes, but it's clear this openness is not the path towards quality. And if quality wins out in the end, ios is very safe. Android is simply not a quality product to the degree that ios is. Everyone knows this because as soon as people can afford one, they move to an iPhone. Rarely are there switchers to android.
     
  2. eyoungren macrumors P6

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    I dislike Android for the fact that it's UI looks unfinished, it's icons are generally ugly and there seems to be an overall lack of consistency in UI design.

    And while I understand that freedom of choice is central to the OS via a bazillion and one ways to achieve the same result or set a preference I would appreciate a clear and concise path to getting things done. Not a confusing jumble that leaves you wondering where the hell you are in the operating system.

    That's pretty much my issue.
     
  3. osta.doc macrumors member

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    You should stick with Apple......for sure.
     
  4. lordofthereef macrumors G4

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    Respectfully, many of your points are subjective. If you are happy with Apple, go Apple. But the reason people change and stay with whatever else is because they actually are happy with that choice. Doesn't have to be mind boggling. You just don't agree. Simple.
     
  5. pixel_junkie macrumors regular

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    Agree with pretty much all your points. Nexus and vanilla Android are different but the excrementitious Touchwiz + the bloatware loaded on every Galaxy ruin it big time.

    And then there's a difference in attention to detail with the hardware which gets me also - something was pointed out in a video which I can't unsee now. If you look at the bottom of the 6S and the S7, the 6S has all it's ports and wholes in perfect alignment and you can see that some thought went into the design of that part. On the Galaxy, that stuff is all over the place, no symmetry, rhyme or reason.
     
  6. RedOrchestra Suspended

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    Really, Google tracks everywhere ... have you got everything possible in the IT world toggled off so they don't track you?
     
  7. ABC5S macrumors 68040

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    I agree. I liked Samsungs Galaxy S7 edge a lot, but went back to Apple because of my other systems are Apple. The S7 Edge is subjective, and most of what OP ranted about I personally liked. TouchWiz, as has been mentions by another poster is not as heavy as previous one's, and for me, it wasn't a bother at all. Don't know why all the fuss. But that to is subjective to the individual, and that is all I care about. Don't care what you like or don't, as long as I like it. ;)
     
  8. bufffilm, Jun 7, 2016
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    bufffilm macrumors 68040

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    What are you blathering about?

    Nothing wrong with the ports on the s7...'no rhyme or reason'?
     
  9. kamalds macrumors regular

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    Your points are correct but they are true for a person who does not do business on the move. For instance, for me, Gmail app is much, much, much superior on android and you can add any number of accounts on it. My four year old Galaxy S3 handles over 200 email a day without a problem. My new iPhone 6s' default email client sucks.

    Second, Wi-Fi file transfer that is still lacking in iOS. I can transfer a gig of files from one android to another android within 60-70 seconds without connecting to a hotspot!

    Third - this one is important where I live but Android FS allows you to send files via Bluetooth. So I can send small files to and fro to my desktop, laptop, windows phone etc immediately.

    That said, I still love my iPhone 6s. It is a great consumer phone - just don't expect to do any serious work on it.
     
  10. pixel_junkie macrumors regular

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    Just sharing my opinion, panchi. If you don't like it, you can just move on. Don't have to be rude.
     
  11. Channan macrumors 68030

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    I don't have a 6s, but I do have a Galaxy S7 Edge and iPhone SE. The battery life on the SE is better than the GS7E, but they both get me through the day fine.

    But the camera on the Galaxy S7 Edge is MUCH better than my iPhone SE's, which has the same camera as the 6s. Not only do I feel the pictures look better overall, but they're way more detailed.

    The only app that lags occasionally for me is Chrome. There's no UI lag. My iPad Air 2 lags more than my Galaxy S7 Edge does.

    The comment about privacy was completely unnecessary and I'm honestly not even sure why you mentioned it. Like, did you just realize Google collects information on you after you tried an Android phone? Also, Google is collecting info on you whenever you use any of their services on any platform.

    And there's no such thing as using an Android phone out of the box? How do you figure since the majority of the people I know with Android phones do just that. They still have the launcher that came with the phone and use all the stock apps.

    This topic just seems like another pro-Apple piece with no objectivity.
     
  12. Black Magic macrumors 68000

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    In fairness, the Galaxy S7 was launched a few months ago. The 6S launched a year ago. I would hope the S7 has better camera equipment going against the year old 6S. The truth is that the 6S holds up just fine against the S7.
     
  13. se1000 macrumors 6502

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    Always interesting to hear people's views when switching platforms. These two sentences however, show your bias, which is fine, but ill informed.
     
  14. Channan macrumors 68030

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    The 6s came out 8 and a half months ago. Don't try to make it seem like the iPhone is almost a full year older. The iPhone 6s isn't even quite half a year older than the Galaxy S7. Truth is the iPhone 6s' camera is more comparable to the actually more than a year old Galaxy S6.

    I'm not trying to put the iPhone down at all, but Samsung has done a fantastic job with their cameras lately so I'm giving credit where it's due. The iPhone's is really good, but the Galaxy S7's is much better.
     
  15. M. Gustave macrumors 68000

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    All excellent points, and ones I've also encountered. You pretty much summed it up.
     
  16. lordofthereef macrumors G4

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    I don't have a galaxy s7 but I went looking at some pictures to see what you're referring to. This is the best photo of the bottom (I assume this is what you meant since this is where ports are). Is this what, in your opinion, is all over the place? It resembles the iPhone, to me, but maybe we see things vastly differently. Or maybe I'm not understanding your meaning.
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    But the OP states the camera of the s7 is inferior. Had that bit been said I imagine the camera wouldn't have even been brought up by @Channan
     
  17. bufffilm macrumors 68040

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    He's referring to the fact that the ports on the s7 are not symmetrically aligned (on the same plane) as they are on the iPhone.

    Here's a quick photo so you can see:

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    Notice how the iPhone's ports are equidistant (from the front and back of the phone) and aligned on the same imaginary line whereas the s7 ports are not.

    The s7 port layout is not symmetrical, but to say that "there's no rhyme or reason" to it, is far-fetched and why I quoted his words back to him.
     
  18. pixel_junkie macrumors regular

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    Not all over the place, maybe I exaggerated a bit. Just not perfectly aligned like on a iPhone. Most people won't notice it probably, I do. I'm a designer by trade, look for and notice perfection. Apple has it, Samsung is trying and is close but not there yet.
     
  19. torana355 macrumors 68020

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    I read up to here then stopped, as others have pointed out your views are highly subjective. Almost all reviews say the opposite when it comes to the camera.
     
  20. Black Magic macrumors 68000

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    Close? Hardly. Their software is the weak point which they will never overcome. Samsung is known for copying products in all industries and then dominate via price point and scale. The mobile industry has been a difficult nut to crack for them because they don't have all aspects covered (Software/Ecosystem).
     
  21. M. Gustave macrumors 68000

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    So you value... conformity in reviews? Interesting. And if you don't find it, you stop reading. Eesh...
     
  22. torana355 macrumors 68020

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    Its not as black and white as that, but in this case the Camera on the S7 is widely regarded as being better then the 6s. The OP stated it like it was a fact the 6s has the better camera, simply not true and therefore i was not compelled to read the rest of the post.
     
  23. The Game 161, Jun 7, 2016
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    I'm sorry but the 6s camera is not better than the s7 edge camera at all. Pics are certainly better on my edge than my 6s plus without question. Best camera on a smartphone for me.

    There is also no lag on new Samsung phones that I have seen. I don't have any.

    The end of your post is embarrassing OP. Using the line well when people can afford one they go iPhone? What kind of world are you living in? Android phones cost as much as iPhones do. Certainly Samsung phones. What people can afford has nothing to do with them choosing android or iPhone.

    As much as you say people think IOS is a better product, android fans would say the same in reverse. Android fans want choice and it's easy to see why they would maybe prefer it over IOS.

    There is likely just as many switchers to android as there is from android to IOS
     
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