Hey Siri, what is 2.6lbs in kilos?

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  1. davehutch macrumors 6502a

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    How else should I say it?
     

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  2. Ipadilac macrumors member

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    US Pounds seems to do the trick.
     

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    How curious.

    2.6 Imperial pounds?

    2.6 of the Queen's Own pounds?
     
  5. scaredpoet, Jan 9, 2015
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    It's probably region-specific. OP is in the UK, where the unit of currency is the Pound Sterling (or "pound," £), and most people measure mass in metric (kilograms). So Siri, right or wrong, is assuming that someone in the UK is talking about money when they say "pounds."

    In the US, pounds refers to weight, and we'd probably be more likely to want to convert weight in pounds to mass in kg. So Siri parses the query correctly there.

    Not to say it's being done right. Siri should've figured out that kilos refers to mass and then figured out what was meant that way.

    EDIT: Well, so much for my theory. The opposite works fine in the US (pounds to US dollars). Must be a bug.

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  6. Armen macrumors 604

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    "Siri, how many kilograms is 2.6 pounds".
     
  7. davehutch thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Actually, no...

    One should choose pounds-mass (LBM)/kilograms or pounds-force (LBF)/kilograms-force when making a "mass" or "weight" conversion.

    Gravity is everywhere - the Queen is not, so I'm not getting into the difference between a US mass vs. an Imperial mass. If one wants to know the difference between mass and force, sit through a couple of years of physics like I did in the 80s.

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    "Convert 2.6 pounds force to kilograms."

    Pounds is "pounds mass". Kilograms and pounds-force addresses "force" - or the gravitational pull of the Earth, called gravity - what you feel in your hand when you hold an object. Mass times gravity equals force.

    Thanks for the nostalgia - I took Engineering Physics 30 years ago...
     
  9. mizxco macrumors 6502a

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    Don't be so conversational..
     

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    Doesn't work in NZ; it detects it as "£2.6 in kilograms" and gives the "not compatible" message. Presumably it'll do the same in the UK.

    There is no NZ option for Siri so it defaults to UK over here.
     
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    https://33.media.tumblr.com/273ac9009b2018ee372d966a5c125088/tumblr_muupymW2oT1sh4oi1o1_500.gif
     
  13. davehutch thread starter macrumors 6502a

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  14. Zxxv macrumors 68040

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    where it says tap to edit. Edit it to say the right thing. Then next time you say it siri will know.
     
  15. davehutch thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    That works fine, but the whole point of Siri is not to have to type anything at all.

    If I'd said "Two pounds sixty", I could understand, but in terms of currency, nobody says Two point six pounds" unless they mean weight.

    Anyhow, I edited the input and it worked so then I asked again in the same way but she still assumed I meant currency, so didn't learn
     

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