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For those who make their living with words, whether journalism, fiction, blogging, or in the course of a day job ... What mac gear do you use, and what are your favourite apps?

My own system ... In transition, still using my 2007 iMac at desk with Word, use ipad2 for a lot of writing, typed and handwritten, favorite apps so far are iA Writer, Noteshelf, Quickoffice, Penultimate, Pages. With apple BT keyboard and Wacom baboo stylus.

Air 13 inch would be ideal next buy for me in every way except for perhaps the screen. has anyone taken the leap to rMBP just for sharp text, even if the rest of the machine is overkill for yr purposes?

MBA for sure... even if rMBP has sharper text, trust me MBA is enough... And sharper text requires a smaller size = glasses or sitting close to be able to read...

Its a shame to pay an extra $1000 for an rMBP, if you want you could wait a month's time and 13" rMBP would be out and get that one then if you want, but MBA is lightweight and easier for transporting.
 
Ok, so i'm not a writer. I do enjoy programming though, and that involves lots of writing, and a whole bunch of backspacing. I have a 2011 MBA 11". It's the perfect size for lounging

I've found MindNode Pro to be an acceptable mind mapping software, which helps to lay out ideas. I say acceptable because i haven't found one yet that doesn't have problems. MindNodes problems are thats it's simple, and doesn't have many features, but what it does have all works very nicely.

Pages works really well if your doing any kind of presentation work, I'm not sure that I could just sit down and rough draft with it though. A very excellent program that goes with just about any layout work is xScope. I use it for my UI, for graphics, and for documentation. It's probably one of my best app investments (behind mobile mouse for couch time netflix surfing).

I rely on Dropbox for nearly everything, not much more to say about that one.

The notes app, don't over look it, really handy with iCloud!

Three finger tap dictionary lookup, WOW!

I have scrivener, I haven't used it much, but so far it seams like a really nice piece of kit.

I prefer the couch, but for at the desk, there is nothing with keys that beats the Happy Hacking Keyboard Professional 2, just close your eyes and click buy without looking at the price :D

There are some tools that I use more than any others. They help me to focus on ONLY the task at hand, and have such a polished interface that it just feels purely natural to use them. Some links:

Pencils

Sticky Notes

Legal Pad

White Board

Some times simple is just more productive.
 
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Scrivener Question

Does Scrivener save in its own format so that I can easily work on the same documents using Dropbox on both the MBA and my Lenovo PC? That's my plan.

fyi, I just bought a refurbished 2012 11" MBA with i7/8GB/256. It was the only one they had with 8GB, although I certainly don't need the i7. I'm on the fence re: cancelling my order, as it was only net $45 cheaper than taking advantage of the current education discount, and I worry about buying refurbished vs. buying new, and spending money for what I really don't need. I'm also unsure about the screen size and palm rest issues, but I couldn't really tell typing standing up at the apple store. Ultimately, I've been deciding b/n the 11" MBA and the yet to be released 13" Retina MBP, as the 13" MBA pretty much replicates my Lenovo x220 with a larger footprint. As you might recall, I'm buying a Mac so that I can use iBooks Author (and maybe other apple exclusive software down the line). I also wonder if I can make due with the 128, as my photos and videos and documents tend to be all in the cloud or on the PC's. But my Lenovo laptops seem to fill up their hard drives without any of the above on them either. Not sure if that's a Windows specific issue or not, and I don't want to max out the hard drive.

Thanks for all the great advice and encouragement on this thread.
 
I'm still learning scrivener, so will leave that question to more seasoned users.

I spent ages considering the Airs versus retina MacBook versus retina iPad versus waiting for 13 inch retina MacBook. My priority for writing being sharp text, I was so tempted by the rMbp but ...too many downsides. Hard to justify retina iPad when my ipad2 is still perfect and, while I love it and do use it creatively, the iPad has its limitations.

So, finally, settled on 13 inch Air, the TN screen I was so worried about is actually pretty good. I've never bought refurb, the price reduction isn't usually enough IMO to be worthwhile. There are countless threads here about 13 v 11 inch, that's something only your specific needs can decide.

For what I do, mostly writing with some music, photography, and investigating ebook projects, text and multimedia, the Air gives me great portability combined with iPad, and good desk situation with external screen.
 
Thank you. That's what I'm thinking. The savings isn't that great, plus I don't know if I can get the discounted apple care with the refurbished computer so I think I might return it (before it comes) and order new. Now, just to decide on the processor and the hard drive. 8gb ram is a definite. For those without access to the education discount, the savings on the "ultimate" MBA is substantial (about $250).
 
A lot of advice I've read on threads here suggests that base model is fine if you're not doing gaming, video editing etc.

Despite the stupid price, I think 256 gb is worth it ... even though most of my photos, music, audio books and all movies are on external USB3 drive, I like having the option to have things on the computer. But if it's not affordable, usb3 is so much faster for accessing external drive, you might find 128 plenty.
 
I see some responses on here about Final Draft and Scrivener for the iPad. From what I've heard, the recently-released Final Draft iPad app is good. I'm so glad it is finally released. It's great to know that whenever I got an iPad, the app would be available to me from day one.

I'm kind of cash-strapped right now, but I need to get something new. I would love a MacBook Air, but I'm thinking about going for the iPad Mini for writing. Or I could maybe get the base 11" 64GB with 8GB of RAM.

Ideally, I'd love the maxed-out version. Because I have some movies and TV shows I'd like to store locally, but I'm not sure if I want to splurge on that right now. I am going for the new iPhone, just not sure what else to complement it. At this point, iPad Mini.

Glad to see people still contributing to this thread!
 
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I don't think they could/should use the same exact frame layout that they do in their desktop version, as that would take up valuable editing space on the right side. If they had auto-hiding or a smaller indicator of where you were in your folder hierarchy that would be more efficient.

In general, it could work if they take into account the limited real estate without limiting the workflow writers are used to in the desktop version, and taking advantage of 'touch' features, e.g., dragging to rearrange, selective highlighting, ex.

I'm waiting for Final Draft for the iPad to release in a few weeks, but am wary of similar issues in execution as well.

Yes, I would expect that the iPad version would have a very different layout. At the moment, Elements is doing a pretty good job for me in syncing my Scrivener projects, but sometimes it messes up the formatting a bit. Simplenote is another option for syncing Scrivener projects to the iPad, but it doesn't keep the order of the folders, which is why I switched to Elements.

Doesn't anybody use Evernote?

Not a writer, but it works great for sharing notes across my iphone, ipad and laptop and probably even my soon to come MBA.

I use it to write blog posts, take pictures, keep track of inspiration and write stuff in general.

I use Evernote for various note taking tasks, but not that much in conjunction with my actual writing. It just sits in a different place in my work flow. I'd rather just type my notes directly into scrivener or elements.

Does Scrivener save in its own format so that I can easily work on the same documents using Dropbox on both the MBA and my Lenovo PC? That's my plan.

Scrivener does save in its own format, and you can use dropbox to sync. I don't work in dropbox directly, but I have automatic sync set up between dropbox and my Air. I need to find a similar app for my pc, just haven't looked into it. Previously, I was copying and pasting via dropbox. I've been sceptical to work directly in dropbox, but to be honest I can't remember why right now - i.e. whether I've actually read somewhere that it's not a good idea, or if it was just some idea I had myself. In general, the syncing has worked fairly well. The pc version of Scrivener is a bit different from the mac version, and is missing some of the features on mac. But no biggie so far for me.


A lot of advice I've read on threads here suggests that base model is fine if you're not doing gaming, video editing etc.

Despite the stupid price, I think 256 gb is worth it ... even though most of my photos, music, audio books and all movies are on external USB3 drive, I like having the option to have things on the computer. But if it's not affordable, usb3 is so much faster for accessing external drive, you might find 128 plenty.

I maxed out my 2011 Air when I ordered it as I plan to keep it for a while - but yes, I'd definitely 'survive' with the 128 and an external drive if I had to. That's probably partially because a lot of my work stuff just stays on my work pc.

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Can anyone say a bit about the differences between Scrivener and Final Draft Pro? I couldn't believe the price of that last app :eek: what makes it worth all that money?

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I'm kind of cash-strapped right now, but I need to get something new. I would love a MacBook Air, but I'm thinking about going for the iPad Mini for writing. Or I could maybe get the base 11" 64GB with 8GB of RAM.

Ideally, I'd love the maxed-out version. Because I have some movies and TV shows I'd like to store locally, but I'm not sure if I want to splurge on that right now. I am going for the new iPhone, just not sure what else to complement it. At this point, iPad Mini.

Do you really feel comfortable on writing on such a small screen? I'd prefer the base 11" (but of course, this stuff is a lot about preferences).
 
What are you writing?

And, any interesting new discoveries in apps or ways of using them in writing related tasks?

Anyone using jailbreak on iPad to use BT Mouse?

Saw a video on a thread here for setting up and using this, looked great, you could still use the touch screen too but with a Bluetooth mouse ... A great solution for writing on iPad with external keyboard when having to reach up to the screen all the time isn't ideal, for me at least.

I've upgraded to IOS6, which isn't jailbroken yet, so can't use that.
 
Hi Nightlong
It has been a while since this thread wound up but I thought I'd reply because I have a similar dilemma to the one you had last year. I'm a writer and completed an MA in Creative Writing on my 7 year old ASUS 15" laptop but it now freezes half way down a page of writing. Not only is this very annoying but it fuels my huge tendency to procrastinate. I have a retina iPad for browsing and notetaking but ergonomically it's not great for me to write on (neck issues from looking down and lower back stuff as well as eye strain sometimes). I have decided to move to Mac and I want to use Scrivener to full effect. I also do some photography. My dilemma is whether to buy the iMac 21" and initially use a desktop system (I have a dedicated study where I seem to focus best) or to go for mobility (which would be great to have for the times I can't be at my desk) and either purchase the MacBook Air or the 13" Retina Pro. You wrote that ergonomics were important to you so I was wondering how you feel about the MBA now that you have been using it for a few months. Is a 13" screen enough realestate to 'enjoy' running Scrivener on? Does the MBA give you eye strain if you use it all day? Would you recommend it as a writer's main computer? Or is it best to start with an iMac and maybe get a refurbished MBA down the track? I've also considered getting an Air or rMBP and hitching it up to an external monitor. What would you recommend given that technology does influence productivity :)
 
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An absolutely fascinating thread, - thanks for starting it, OP - and I've enjoyed reading the entire thread.

Reading the thread, I've learned quite a bit, (especially about Scrivener, is it really that good? If so, it may merit a closer look...), and also have some thoughts and experiences that may be worth airing.

I'm an academic (and published author of history books), who has strayed, in recent years, into public service. In all of my jobs for the past twenty years, writing (and editing) have played a huge role; in my current position I write reports most days.

Re the thread itself, I would like to make a few general points. Personally, I use Macs. My first Mac was a 15" MBP which I replaced with a 13" MBA in late 2010 and which is now my sole personal computer. I love it, the form factor, the ease of use, the weight, (I travel a lot and weight matters), the blazing speed of the SSD, and the sharp screen, which was the best screen Apple had in a laptop prior to the introduction of the retina screen in the past year or so. In fact, the MBA is easily the best computer I have ever had.

However, for writers who have to interact with the big, bad, real world, firstly, most of the working world still uses Windows computers (as did all of the universities in which I worked - though they also had Apple) - as did the Government, when I worked for them, and as did all of the international organisations I have ever worked for.

Thus, despite the use of the adjective 'dinosaur' (and the other adjective, 'clunky'), secondly, Word, however slow and out of date it may be, is still the industry standard, and is still what every organisation I have ever worked for uses to this day. So, on each and every Mac I have owned, I have had Office for Mac, because Word is a must for me.

However, for my own writing, and when I am writing something detailed which requires a lot of thought, I work from my MBA, rather than the sluggish (and much abused office machines).
 
Hi Writergirl .... Sympathise with your dilemma, and it is ongoing for me because the perfect solution isn't available yet. That is, for me, a large screen, Apple preferably, of Retina quality, so I could use a 13" MacBook retina for mobility, and no loss of sharpness when plugged into external monitor at desk.

Meanwhile ... My compromises:

Compromise 1: Using an ipad4 for a lot of writing, with external keyboard and hoverbar, at eye level, so no neck strain. The screen is beautiful, but of course it has limitations with lack of file system etc, but for just writing in a simple way, using whole screen it is pretty good and I can write for longer periods than with the Air's screen.

Compromise 2: at desk, the Air with a Dell U2412 monitor (similar quality to the Air, so not great but not bad, didn't want to invest too much in a monitor, saving up for that future big retina screen which is likely to be very expensive).

Compromise 3: the Air in a comfortably close position in a very expensive reclining chair ... With bluetooth trackpad on arm of chair. Chair tilts back, feet up, Air on a padded board. Easing my back from too much vertical sitting, as well as my eyes, as the screen isn't too bad at this distance, especially when using full screen in Scrivener.

I really don't like sitting at a desk anymore, but do mainly for my other projects which involve music and photography. But when just writing, l'm avoiding desk most of the time.

I will probably get a MacBook retina, the more I use the ipad4 the harder it is going back to the Air and my old iMac. But didn't want first generation with the screen problems etc, so waiting to see how the next gen is.

If you are only going to have one machine and you want the sharpest for text I would recommend the MacBook retina but, if at a desk, with external keyboard and mouse or trackpad and the laptop raised to eye level.

I can't see much point in buying retina and plugging it into an external monitor of inferior quality all the time, but you might find that preferable to using a small screen, especially if you get the 13".

I love my old iMac and the screen is still quite good and it is very quiet, and I would recommend an iMac if you don't need portability, or if you kept your iPad for that. But .. with SSD or fusion drive. SSD is so much faster and, apparently, less prone to premature death!

I hope this helps. Would like to hear what you choose.
 
Revisiting this thread, nice to see it still going. I'm finally in the market to splurge on a Mac again.

I've been anxiously awaiting WWDC so I can pick one up. I love the 11-inch Air, but I'm 90% sure I'm just going to go with the 13-inch rMBP. I've checked out the screens and while I have no problem with the screen on the Air, a Retina display is amazing. Only problem is that Final Draft (my main writing software) isn't updated for Retina and won't be until they put out the next software version. Oh well.
 
Is a 13" screen enough realestate to 'enjoy' running Scrivener on?

I meant to answer this and the next question:
I find Scrivener on MBA easily usable, though it is better on large screen, especially if you often have other apps open. Even better when using dual screens, with other apps on the second screen. That gets me back to long hours at a desk though ... until I design a solution.


Does the MBA give you eye strain if you use it all day?
Not combined with using ipad4 ... I do early stage writing on iPad, where I write non-stop for long periods, hardly looking away from the screen. Then pick it up via Dropbox on the Air, for Scrivener, to add it to something else, or edit etc, but these are shorter sessions usually.
 
Thanks for the info :). I too am waiting for WWDC before I buy. While that's good and has allowed me to research the best computer for my needs, it also predisposes me to over-think things ;). When I first toddled off to the shop to have a look at these beasties I fell for the 15" rMBP. As I currently use a 15" laptop it would seamlessly replace the old warhorse (The current ergonomics work for me). The problem is that if I upgraded the base 21" iMac to 16GB and added a fusion drive, it is still a few hundred $$ cheaper than the base 15" rMBP upgraded to 16GB ram. A customised MBA or 13" MBP with a really good external monitor starts to approach the MBP. The 15" rMBP gives me some mobility but not as much as the 13". It's screen is smaller than the iMac. In reality it also gives me more power than I really need (although crisp text and photo reproduction are very desirable). So, I'm still not sure what I am going to do but I will ponder further and make a decision in the next couple of weeks. Who knows WWDC might unveil just the right beast for me.
 
I've been anxiously awaiting WWDC so I can pick one up. I love the 11-inch Air, but I'm 90% sure I'm just going to go with the 13-inch rMBP.

Only problem is that Final Draft (my main writing software) isn't updated for Retina and won't be until they put out the next software version. Oh well.

My thoughts, as well, except that I use Word. Can someone tell me if Word for Mac works well with Retina?

Excellent thread. Thanks, NightLong, for posting it.
 
An absolutely fascinating thread, - thanks for starting it, OP - and I've enjoyed reading the entire thread.

Reading the thread, I've learned quite a bit, (especially about Scrivener, is it really that good? If so, it may merit a closer look...), and also have some thoughts and experiences that may be worth airing.

I'm an academic (and published author of history books), who has strayed, in recent years, into public service. In all of my jobs for the past twenty years, writing (and editing) have played a huge role; in my current position I write reports most days.

Re the thread itself, I would like to make a few general points. Personally, I use Macs. My first Mac was a 15" MBP which I replaced with a 13" MBA in late 2010 and which is now my sole personal computer. I love it, the form factor, the ease of use, the weight, (I travel a lot and weight matters), the blazing speed of the SSD, and the sharp screen, which was the best screen Apple had in a laptop prior to the introduction of the retina screen in the past year or so. In fact, the MBA is easily the best computer I have ever had.

However, for writers who have to interact with the big, bad, real world, firstly, most of the working world still uses Windows computers (as did all of the universities in which I worked - though they also had Apple) - as did the Government, when I worked for them, and as did all of the international organisations I have ever worked for.

Thus, despite the use of the adjective 'dinosaur' (and the other adjective, 'clunky'), secondly, Word, however slow and out of date it may be, is still the industry standard, and is still what every organisation I have ever worked for uses to this day. So, on each and every Mac I have owned, I have had Office for Mac, because Word is a must for me.

However, for my own writing, and when I am writing something detailed which requires a lot of thought, I work from my MBA, rather than the sluggish (and much abused office machines).

I still use Word for biz things, but Scrivener for writing. I think it is the perfect writing app but might not suit you. Check out the tutorials at literatureandlatte.com
 
I still use Word for biz things, but Scrivener for writing. I think it is the perfect writing app but might not suit you. Check out the tutorials at literatureandlatte.com

Thanks, I most certainly shall do so, (as I write both for myself and also for those who employ me); nothing I have read here excludes the use of both.

Thanks, also, for starting and maintaining this thread. It is a mine of information and a most interesting read.
 
A few things

Great to see this thread reincarnated by people who are enjoying it. Thanks for the positive comments.

One poster mentioned that he/she didn't have an Air but wanted to post. I was very new here when I started this, I stArted it in the Air forum because I was particularly interested at the time in researching the Air as a writing machine. But, don't feel limited by the forum it is in. In my view any computer or software, any kind of writing is on topic.

Anyone using Scapple? My latest download, made by the Scrivener developers, and you can drag and drop notes from Scapple into Scrivener. Not exactly a mind-mapping app ... you can make notes anywhere and connect them with drag and drop. Simple but useful clever design with intuitive interface.
 
My main machine is a 2012 Air. Once in a while i use an iMac or a Mini that is in the house too. Occasionally I write from the iPad as well.

I use Scrivener, Word and sometimes Pages depending on my mood and the project, and Evernote for a digital storehouse of raw material.
 
My main machine is a 2012 Air. Once in a while i use an iMac or a Mini that is in the house too. Occasionally I write from the iPad as well.

I use Scrivener, Word and sometimes Pages depending on my mood and the project, and Evernote for a digital storehouse of raw material.

I like Evernote, and sometimes use it with Penultimate, but not so keen on the subscription situation.

What sort of writing are you doing?
 
I like Evernote, and sometimes use it with Penultimate, but not so keen on the subscription situation.

What sort of writing are you doing?

I do a lot of business writing, some technical writing, and I am getting back into writing fiction for the first time in 10+ years :)

I should have also mentioned that i use Dragon to dictate a lot as well, and the results of that usually go into Word.
 
I was ready to buy Air 13, was just waiting for ML to come with it, and then all these posts were appearing about the screen problems and how you need to rush out and spend hundreds of dollars on calibration gear to get optimism performance! I started to think rMbp might be better value, even though I don't need all that power, I do need a readable screen.

You're right. It wasn't until the rMBP came out that I realized all other screens were utterly unreadable. I don't know how we managed before... Just take a look at my screen:
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I use Mindnode Pro for raw plot outlines in mind-map form, so I can quickly visualise any plot conflicts, and then use Scrivener for writing.

Seriously, if any of you are writing a long thesis or novel, it's just GOT to be Scrivener! Scrivener Scrivener Scrivener! The sticky-notes board for moving arguments or plot summaries is just amazing! Seriously.

Watch this and you'll understand why.

http://www.literatureandlatte.com/videos/ScrivIntroLarge.mov
 
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