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Not exactly, as MBP can demand more power than charger delivers, so internally it could means troubles. A Mac is a bit more complex as an iPhone in hardware, and also in software, where the iOS is completely sandboxed, macOS is not.

I had my 15MBP dead after using it for a week with a 60hz 13MBP charger, I was working and runout of battery while charging, it shut down, never come alive again
That is one single example where causality hasn't even been proven. And which stands against 1000s or more that report no issue with such a setup. And while Apple recommends to use higher-powered chargers for optimal performance, it says its 30-W charger is compatible with all USB-C devices (which by definition includes the 15" MBP).

And while a Mac might not take it as gracefully if it battery runs out while it is plugged into a charger, it's going to be a rare condition that one can keep an eye on. Macs know how to go to sleep automatically when the battery level drops to 0%. And even when that doesn't work, Macs normally survive a sudden loss of power (pulling the cord on desktop Macs has been done many times by many people). If anything it would be the power management hardware that might get caught in an unknown state if the battery gives the signal of "I'm out" while the charging part says there is still power coming in.

And your example could have also happened while using the charger that came with the MBP (as you said a MBP can demand more power than even the supplied charger delivers). Thus the power management hardware and macOS should be designed to deal with it.
 
maybe... but when my dual G4 motherboard died after a general blackout, with the 2 HDD corrupted, the tech guy told me that it could be because the blackout but it didn't have too much sense...

too me it has been proven, but I'm only talking about what hapend to me twice... hope not to have a third time because the same mistake
 
I have the Anker PowerCore with PD that it's really an excellent product. Solid build quality.

My current favorite is not review up there, but the HyperJuice 27000mAh battery I backed on Kickstarter for only $150. I think even at the retail $300 I would buy it. Charges my 15" MacBook Pro at 100W and the battery itself charges from a 100W USB-C charger in like an hour. It's crazy how far we've come.
 
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Good article. I have the Anker PowerCore+ 26800 PD Charger (30W) for a year now. I remember plugging it into my 2017 MacBook Pro and nothing much happened, so I gave up. I'm sure your results are correct, so your article will make me take another crack at it. Thanks. [I think what happens is I plug in and my MBP percentage still drops so I thought it wasn't working. Just now it went 99% to 98% but back to 99%. ]
I also have the older Anker 22000 from 2016. I bought each of them for extended travel. The first Anker really bailed me out in Japan in 2016 when my iPhone 6s was randomly going battery dead (it seemed guaranteed to do this if I was on some confusing mountain trail full compass, iphone gps, paper map and head scratching. So the USB batteries heavy as they are became essential.
I travel with the toughest 2 meter long USB cords I can find, and carry the Anker in my backpack, day bag or jacket pocket and run the cable over my shoulder. (my iPhone is always in a LifeProof case with a DIY lanyard I've been using since I got the phone.)
One perennial problem I have with these batteries: if I have a device plugged in but forget to push the button, they won't charge my device. This has tripped me up a few times, but usually it's only annoying and within a minute or two I have enough charge to carry on. At home I keep an Anker plugged into a bluetooth speaker that's at least ten years old with a very weak battery. I attach the Anker with rubber bands. It's heavy and makes no economic sense, but I always know where the battery is, it takes forever to use up the Anker.
One thing I'm endlessly confused about is which USB charger to use for the USB batteries. I used a magnifying glass to see the wattage rating on all my chargers and then wrote it larger in indelible ink. My older bigger Anker is 2.4 amps at 5v and the new smaller one is 3a at 5v.
 
I have the RAV 26800 and it charges keeps my Macbook 12" at 100% all day I have never killed it after sitting for hours on the computer processing 36 megapixel images. I did have issues with older Anker 26800 (pre-PD). I think it prematurely killed my battery due to lack of wattage. I had to have the battery replaced because it could not hold charger after a year.

BTW, i am not sure if this is related to usage of Rav but I have to reset pram on my laptop often because copying to external hard drive slows down to under 40 mb/second until i reset the pram then it jumps to 100 mb/s according to chronosync. Anyone know if these external battery packs can mess with the laptop?



It’s not just yours.
 
I bought the RAVPower 26000 on refurb at Amazon about 5 months ago for $39.99 and it’s a killer. Curiously I logged into amazon surfing around and found one this week, same one refurb for now $29.99. Ordered it so I have a backup to the backup. I’m really bad at charging things so it’s nice to just have one and rotate them daily. I paid for both less than one costs and the refurbs have done me well
 
QUESTION

Can these power banks simultaneously charge a device(es) and also be recharging themselves whilst being plugged into the wall?

Or is it only one or the other?

Thanks
 
There are other problems solved by these packs; not just recharging. For example, I use two of them for on-site video recording. They power my larger monitor; the camera; and the recorder.
 
I have the Mophie Powerstation USB-C 3XL I got on March 30 2019. I bought it to use at Disney World at the beginning of April. It worked fine. Just took it out today May 29, 2019 to charge my iPad Pro 2018 12.9". It's dead, no lights and not taking a charge. Will now try Warrenty.

FYI, the Mophie Powerstation XXL at got at the same time is still working.
 
What is the use-case for these packs? Just a gigantic phone recharger? I have a few small phone rechargers that I rarely use since getting a phone with wireless charging (XS). I have wireless pads just about everywhere I go (and in the car) so the phone rarely drops below 50%.
 
One of the best batteries was missed out that can charge your MacBook Pro 15 Touch at full 87w, your phones and is flight safe and has been around for over 15+ months. You should all really check out Lifepowr A3. This is there web site https://lifepowr.co/ should anyone be interested and i have been using them for my digital hire company for over 15 months.
 

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45w is the highest rated on the market? my 100w hyperjuice must be a unicorn then and not a battery pack.
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QUESTION

Can these power banks simultaneously charge a device(es) and also be recharging themselves whilst being plugged into the wall?

Or is it only one or the other?

Thanks
not sure about those but with the hyperjuice you can
 
I have not seen it on the list but I got a "FLOUREON Power Bank 26800mAh 60W PD Portable Charger Input & Output Type C" from Amazon for under $70. It is not as nice as the Hyper Juice, which appears to be the best for a MBP, but is less than 30% of the price. It will actually charge my 2019 MBP 15 from about 25% to full at 60 watts.
 
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There's a couple of problems with this statement:

1. Using the word capacity to refer to the maximum output power of the power bank is confusing. Generally capacity refers to the amount of charge the pack can store, and this is how you have used it elsewhere in the review.
2. 45W USB-C PD is definitely not the highest power output available on a power bank today. There are numerous options available that range from 60W up to 100W output over USB-C. They are sometimes more expensive than the options reviewed here, but for higher performance sometimes the extra money is warranted.

For example:

- Omnicharge has a USB-C PD pack that does 60W output: https://www.omnicharge.co/products/omni-20-usb-c/
- Batpower has a pack that also outputs 60W: https://batpower.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=74&product_id=176
- (Not yet widely available) SanHo Corporation's newest Hyperjuice pack does 100W output on a single port and has a 2nd USB-C port as well: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hypershop/hyperjuice-worlds-most-powerful-usb-c-battery-pack
- (Not yet released) Zendure's latest pack (SuperTank) also does 100W over one USB-C port and has a 2nd USB-C port: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/625327275/supertank-power-your-phone-for-a-week-recharge-in

I got the HyperJuice via Indiegogo (since availability by other methods is still problematic; slow, but I got it). Very impressed so far. 100w and 60w USB-C ports (presumably not both at full at once), also charged via the 100w port; and there's a 18w USB-A port, too. One can get a matching 100w charger for it, so it doesn't take unreasonably long to recharge. It's the max permitted for carry-on, and can charge a 15in MBP just fine.

Under existing regs, IMO this is about as bad-@ss as it gets for a charger. Since I have USB-C to Lightning cables anyway, this does pretty much everything for me.
 
You didn't test the Mohpie Powerstation AC? Has USB-C port and a regular AC port for charging a MacBook Pro

http://www.mophie.com/shop/universal-batteries/powerstation-ac?a92=12




A few years ago, it was difficult to find a USB-C battery pack capable of charging a MacBook at a speed of 30 or 45W, but with Apple and other companies increasingly embracing USB-C technology for everything from smartphones to laptops, high-powered USB-C battery packs have become more readily available.

Higher-watt USB-C battery packs are ideal for fast charging iPhones and iPad Pros, providing power for MacBooks and MacBook Air models, and even charging up a MacBook Pro when charging speed isn't an issue.

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In this guide, I'll be comparing 27, 30, and 45W battery packs with capacities ranging from 19,000 mAh to 26,800 mAh from companies that include Mophie, Anker, RAVPower, Jackery, and ZMI to help MacRumors readers find the best USB-C battery packs.[*]Anker PowerCore+ 26800 PD Charger (30W)
[*]RAVPower 26800mAh PD Portable Charger (30W)
[*]Mophie Powerstation USB-C 3XL (45W)
[*]Jackery Supercharge 26800 PD Portable Charger (45W)
[*]Anker PowerCore 19000+ PD Portable Charger and USB-C Hub (27W)
[*]ZMI USB PD Backup Battery & Hub (45W)
USB-C Battery Pack Basics

All USB-C battery packs suitable for use with devices like the MacBook or MacBook Pro are large in size and generally just under or over a pound in weight. You're not going to want to stick one of these in your pockets, but they fit into a bag or a backpack.

Each of the battery packs we tested are 45W or less, because there are no higher watt battery packs available on the market. They all come in at under 100Wh, which is the limit that you can take on a plane in your carry-on luggage (power banks like these can't go in checked baggage).

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All of these battery packs have additional USB-A ports so that you can charge more than one device at a time, but keep in mind that the maximum power for each one is distributed between devices when you have more than one thing plugged in. If you want the fastest charging for something like a MacBook that takes all of the available power, charge it alone.

For recharging these battery packs, you're going to want a USB-C PD power adapter that provides 30 to 45W of power. Some of them come with an appropriate power adapter, while some of them don't. You're going to get the fastest recharging speeds over USB-C, and when dealing with a power bank of this size, faster recharging is essential. Most of these will recharge in 2 to 4 hours using a 30 or 45W power adapter.

While all of these battery packs are between 19,000 and 26,800 mAh, no battery pack provides the maximum stated capacity because some power is always lost when transferring charge from one device to another.

Charging iPhones

All of these USB-C battery packs are able to fast charge compatible iPhones, which includes the iPhone 8 and later. With fast charging, if you use a USB-C to Lightning cable, you can charge an iPhone to right around 50 percent within 30 minutes, and to about 80 percent in an hour.

Charging slows as an iPhone's battery gets fuller, which is why it doesn't get to 100 percent within an hour.

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I tested all of these battery packs with an iPhone XS Max and an iPhone X just to make sure everything was functional, and every single one was able to charge these devices to 50 percent in a half an hour with very little deviation, and to about 75 to 80 percent in an hour.

As for capacity, these battery packs are able to charge an iPhone multiple times over. Expect to see at least three charges for an iPhone XS Max from the smaller ~20,000mAh battery packs, and somewhere around 4 to 5 charges from the 26,000mAh battery packs. You'll get more charges for the iPhone 8, iPhone X, and iPhone XS, and similar performance from the XR.

Charging iPads

For the current-generation 11 and 12.9-inch iPad Pro models, if you use a USB-C to USB-C cable, you can charge them faster with one of these USB-C battery packs than you can with the standard 18W charger that comes with them.

On average, the 18W USB-C power adapter from Apple charges my iPad Pro to 45 percent in an hour. With a 30 or 45W USB-C battery pack, the iPad Pro consistently charges to 65 to 66 percent in an hour. The higher capacity battery packs provide about two full charges to an iPad Pro, while the lower capacity ones are about a charge and a half.

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Older iPad Pro models that support fast charging capabilities will be able to fast charge using these USB-C power banks paired with a USB-C to Lightning cable.

Charging MacBook and MacBook Air

All of these USB-C battery packs will charge the USB-C MacBook and MacBook Air at the same speed that you would get with the standard MacBook or MacBook Air power adapter. There's no benefit to using over 30W, so each of these offers about the same charging speed with the only difference being capacity.

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The higher capacity battery packs will charge a MacBook or a MacBook Air one and a half to close to two times, while the smaller capacity models offer about a full charge and then another 20 percent.

Charging MacBook Pro

Because the 15-inch MacBook Pro models ship with a 85 or 87W Power Adapter for charging, it might come as a surprise that you can also use all of these 30W and 45W chargers with the MacBook Pro.

Charging is a good deal slower than what you get with the more powerful 15-inch MacBook Pro power adapter, but it works. In fact, as you'll see in my testing below, it even works when the MacBook Pro is in use for tasks that are not super system intensive like web browsing, using social media, writing, sending emails, light graphics editing, watching YouTube videos, and more.

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I have seen people ask whether using a lower-powered power adapter is going to damage the battery of the MacBook Pro, and from what I can tell from my research, the answer is no. It will charge slower, but it shouldn't ultimately impact performance compared to a standard charging method.

Most battery packs from major brands like Anker and Mophie max out at 45W, but there are some 60W options on the market that are more expensive but would offer faster charging speeds for MacBook Pro models. There are also a few Kickstarters for 100W chargers, but these battery packs are not yet widely available for purchase.

I didn't test these battery packs with the 13-inch USB-C MacBook Pro because I don't own one, but everything that pertains to the 15 inch model is also true of the 13-inch model. These battery packs will charge the 13-inch MacBook Pro even faster (though not at 61W speeds) and will provide more capacity than with the 15-inch MacBook Pro.

30W vs. 45W

Most of the USB-C battery packs available are 30W, with a few 45W options on the market, so both options are included in this review.

For most Apple devices, there is no functional difference between 30W and 45W because MacBook, MacBook Air, iPad Pro models, and iPhones are not going to charge faster with a 45W power bank than with a 30W power bank. All of these devices max out at 30W, and some, like iPhone, max out at 18W.

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Where 45W does make a difference over 30W is charging a 13 or 15-inch MacBook Pro. MacBook Pro models will charge noticeably faster with the 45W power bank than with a 30W version. 45W is, of course, lower than the 61W or 85/87W chargers 13 and 15-inch MacBook Pro models ship with, so don't expect standard charging speeds with these power banks.

Testing Parameters

I wanted to test these batteries in real world conditions with real world devices rather than relying on testing equipment to give potential buyers an idea of the actual performance they can expect from a USB-C battery pack.

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Tests were conducted with a 15-inch MacBook Pro from 2016 (76Wh), a 12-inch MacBook from 2016 (41.4Wh), an 11-inch USB-C iPad Pro from 2018 (29.37Wh), and a 2018 iPhone XS Max (12.08Wh). iPads and iPhones were discharged to 1 percent before testing, and Macs were discharged to 5 percent. Charging tests were done in Airplane Mode and with displays off, with the exception of the in-use MacBook Pro test.


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I have had nothing but problems with the usb-c port on this ravpower. Looking forward to trying some of these other brands.

Yeah, I bought one of those back in 2017 when they first came out, and also found it to be pretty flaky for things USB-C. In the end, I just use the USB-C port for charging the pack faster and just use the USB-A ports for charging other things.
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What is the use-case for these packs? Just a gigantic phone recharger? I have a few small phone rechargers that I rarely use since getting a phone with wireless charging (XS). I have wireless pads just about everywhere I go (and in the car) so the phone rarely drops below 50%.

In my case, I purchased them for use in situations where I have multiple devices to keep running through an overseas flight, or for times when I'll be going several days without access to AC power, such as when I'm camping. I've got USB chargers for flashlights, camera batteries (Panasonic G85), my iPhone 7/iPad Mini 4, etc. and two of these will keep all of that stuff running for a week. I also use them with a battery adapter in my Panasonic G85 for video recording without having to worry about the battery dying in the middle of a long concert or performance.
 
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In my case, I purchased them for use in situations where I have multiple devices to keep running through an overseas flight, or for times when I'll be going several days without access to AC power, such as when I'm camping. I've got USB chargers for flashlights, camera batteries (Panasonic G85), my iPhone 7/iPad Mini 4, etc. and two of these will keep all of that stuff running for a week. I also use them with a battery adapter in my Panasonic G85 for video recording without having to worry about the battery dying in the middle of a long concert or performance.

So for devices other than phones, gotcha. That makes sense.
 
I have the RavPower and Anker "26,800 mAh" batteries in this test. I have had them for about two years or so and used them to charge 12" MacBook and 13" MacBook Pro maybe on average once or twice a month. Light but regular use.

Like another poster I am very irked by using mAh as measure of battery capacity, which it is not. It needs to specify a voltage. The manufacturers do this for two reasons:-
1. Until USB-C came along everything was at a nominal 5V so it was at least a comparative number.
2. It enables them to quote a nice large number "26,800", and it suits them to carry on now that USB-C makes it meaningless with the much higher voltages available.

The Anker battery is stamped as 96.48 Wh and the RavPower is stamped 99.16 Wh.

I also have a Satechi USB-C power meter and recently did as careful a test as I could to compare their output capacities.

For each I started with the battery fully charged (some hours after the charge current dropped to a tiny trickle current according to the Satechi).

Then I connected each battery in turn to the MacBook through the Satechi meter, and just used the machine normally until the battery was no longer delivering anything. Then I read the mAh and voltage from the Satechi meter.
The Anker delivered 3005 mAh at 19.6V ie 58.9 Wh. The RavPower delivered 3245 mAh at 19.6V ie 63.6 Wh.

Results Summary:


Rated Capacity:
Anker 96.48 Wh
RavPower 99.16 Wh

Measured Output: Anker 58.9 Wh
RavPower 63.6 Wh

Transfer Efficiency: Anker 61%
RavPower 64%




These transfer efficiencies are typical of every battery I have ever measured and I have done a good few. Of course these numbers are a single test on two year old batteries, so some deterioration will have occurred. Manufacturers never quote Transfer Efficiencies of course for obvious reasons.

When I first got the batteries I had the definite impression that the Anker had more capacity, so it may have deteriorated more than the RavPower, although I have tended to use the RavPower a bit more because it is slightly smaller and lighter.

The 12 inch MacBook has a 41.4 Wh battery, so the delivered output numbers of 58.9 Wh and 63.6 Wh are about consistent with recharging a MacBook 1.5x. If starting from 5 or 10% on the MacBook the number would be a bit higher.....which subjectively agrees with my experience.

The first RavPower unit I received had a fault which meant when connected to the MacBook the current would sometimes flow the wrong way. There is a very small print note in the manual about this which can be corrected by pressing and holding the power button, but this didn't always work. They sent me a replacement and told me to keep the original. This experience is consistent with the reliability concerns mentioned about the RavPower. Although having got a good one it seems to have done well, and customer service was good.
 
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