High End Audio Brands

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  1. jota73 macrumors 6502

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    Guys,

    Can anyone tell me wich is the best brand on Audio? I own a set of Bose speakers and acoustimas... I remember another brand I saw in a post but forgot its name... "averion....?" dont know... any other that is not bang olufsen??

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  2. ~J~ macrumors 6502

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    Harmon Kardon (components)
    Infinity (speakers)

    Both are owned by Infinity International
     
  3. cubbie5150 macrumors 6502a

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    Nakamichi.................




    back in the day, that is :)
     
  4. jota73 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    are those the only high end audio products?

    any advise on which is the best ?
     
  5. jelloyacket macrumors member

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    How high-end do you want? If you want a $16,000 pair of speakers, look at the Revel Ultima Studio. If you want a $20,000 amp to drive them, look at the Mark Levinson No. 33H. A nice $13,500 Conrad-Johnson ACT2 tube preamp would be a proper front end for it. Top it off with a $9000 REL Reference Studio III subwoofer.

    If you'd rather not get a second mortgage for the house, take a look at Stereophile and get an idea of what's available. I like MartinLogan speakers, not only do they sound pretty but they look cool, too. M&K makes some very nice speakers, too, suited more toward the home theater folks than the stereo-only crowd. They have great subs, too. For powering it all, Yamaha's higher end equipment is consistently good, too. If you want to make sound come out of your computer, look at Echo Audio's products.

    I don't have any of this stuff, though, since I spend all my money on bass guitar gear instead.
     
  6. Nugget macrumors 65816

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    I like to listen to music using my stereo.

    An audiophile is a person who likes to listen to their stereo using music.
     
  7. amd4me macrumors 6502

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    I have a set of B&W 800D's and I love them.
    They are expensive but not as pricey as some other brands.
     
  8. jelloyacket macrumors member

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    Ha, yeah, I definitely don't have a golden ear. I'm more interested in the music, too. Heck, right now I've only got old Altec ADA885 computer speakers that I've had for 7 years.

    Oh yeah, Paradigm has some nice speakers, too.
     
  9. Sesshi macrumors G3

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    The best is highly subjective.

    What I use:

    Wilson Benesch - speakers
    Duevel - speakers
    Mark Levinson - Amplifiers
    dCS - digital front-end
    Combak Reimyo - digital front-end
    Shanling - digital front-end
    Sennheiser - electrostatic headphones / electrostatic amplifier
    etc

    Most of it isn't worth it from an audio point of view - I wouldn't dispute it sounds good, but the actual sonic difference between something that's $2K and $20K is minimal. Perhaps I'm not a genuine audiophile but to me it's more worth it as 'exhibitionist functional furniture'.
     
  10. peeaanuut macrumors 65816

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    outlaw audio makes some great amps, pre-amps, ICBMs (inline controllable base management and not intercontinental ballistic missile) and speakers.
     
  11. Tucom macrumors 65816

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    jota73, you're probably thinking of Aperion Audio. Close :p

    Here is a list of companies that make excellent audio gear, some of which are internet direct - in most cases you get more for your money.

    Will put a * next to subwoofer-only companies.

    Crell

    Aperion Audio

    Velodyne*

    Orb Audio

    KRK Systems

    Klipsch

    SVS Sound - originally started out as subwoofer only company.

    Dynaudio

    Monitor Audio

    NHT

    Martin Logan

    Magnapan

    AV123

    Infinity

    Boston Acoustics

    REL*

    Paradigm

    Definitive Technologies

    (again, all from memory :D)

    Sunfire*

    JL Audio*

    elementalDesigns - originally started out as a subwoofer only company.

    All these aforementioned companies produce excellent, very high-end audio gear.

    Time to do you research :)


    Peace
     
  12. ChrisA macrumors G4

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    Most companies make a range og products some good some not. There are a few that are very specialized but any of the companies that produce for the mass market make a range.

    I good example is Infinity. They used to be a small company that maed just a few speakers, all high ed. Then they got bought out by a biger company and greatly expaned their product line to include much just "run of the mill" kind of averagesounding stuff.

    You say "high end audio" but for what purpose? What exactly are you looking for?
     
  13. thegoldenmackid macrumors 604

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    I love my McIntosh (Not Macintosh) 6100...this is really absurd...there is no "true best"...

    If you want "the best" you need to make sure that you have everything up to far: for example...the guy that bought the Shue e5's but is listening to music downloaded off limewire...problematic....
     
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    Meh, you guys are sooooo lame.

    I listen to everything in stereo via two tin cans and two strings. You get that really nice monofillament/tinny sound. Ah, now *that* is good sound.
     
  15. Nugget macrumors 65816

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    You're such a purist! Holistic analog sound, end-to-end -- never marred by synthetic digital processing. Way to go!
     
  16. Tucom macrumors 65816

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    I've got four -two per side- setup up in stereo as dedicated subwoofers.

    What model to you have?


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  17. CarlsonCustoms macrumors 6502

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    "no highs, no lows, must be bose"
    I really think its a sad sight when you hear people saying Bose is the end all be all of audio. Some of the best sounding items are items you'd probably never have heard of.
     
  18. Sesshi macrumors G3

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    Dunno about that. Most of the Bose stuff I've heard sound perfectly acceptable. They just work, their performance or build quality isn't that hot but the sort of people who buy them aren't going to care too much about that - and they're decor-friendly in an unobtrusive way, as well as usually pretty usable. They're to audio what Apples are to computers.
     
  19. plaidhippo macrumors member

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    I have NHT speakers and absolutely love them. I have had great experiences with Boston Acoustics speakers and I have seen them being sold for very low prices on deal web sites (slick deals dot net). I've heard good things about Infinity in recent years but don't have any personal experience with them. As for amplifiers, I love my Harmonn Kardon amp. I have the lowest end model from several years ago, and it still blows the walls down of my entire house.

    And for the person who compared Bose to Apple - for shame!! Apple builds GOOD products which while "expensive", provide a better computing experience for that price. There is nothing about Bose products which makes them superior to any other speakers I've ever heard (and i've heard some ****ty speakers!). The phrase "no highs, no lows, must be bose" is NOT a myth! I'm not an audiophile, but I've heard a lot of speakers and I have never once been pleased, much less impressed by Bose products. Sorry to sound like such a hater, but seriously, for the amount of money one spends on Bose, they can get an entire system for a second room and both will sound better than that single bose system. IMHO, of course. :rolleyes:
     
  20. Sesshi macrumors G3

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    Well - what can I say. It takes experience not to be a fanboy.

    I use Bose products here and there and I find them generally acceptable for the environment they're intended to be used in, fuss-free and designed pretty well with their intended use in mind - but if I was being critical, I'd say they were not very well built and far from ideal in terms of absolute performance. Their sales and image is based on heavy - and competent - marketing in the aspirational lifestyle vein. I have exactly the same opinion for Apple products.
     
  21. RaceTripper macrumors 68030

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    The best way to get a good audio system is to grab a handful of CDs you know and like, stay away from Bose stores, and go to legitimate audio shops and listen. Don't read specs and reviews. They are totally useless, unless — like someone said earlier — you are in to listening to audio systems using music rather than listening to the music itself.

    I have a Linn Sondek, Arcam electronics, Linn SARA speakers, and Dynaudio speakers/sub for HT. And other than rated amplifier power I have no idea about specs on any of it.

    If you want to know how great Bose really is, read this. :rolleyes:
     
  22. CarlsonCustoms macrumors 6502

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    Thank you very much. Bose does one thing excellent ......


    MARKETING..

    I can't fault them for that but I wouldnt' buy any of their stuff for true sound quality.
     
  23. CLuv macrumors 6502

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    If you're looking for speakers I highly recommend JM Lab. They're are made by Focal. Focal makes drivers and crossovers for hi-fi companies such as Wilson Audio (regarded as one of the finest speakers). Focal decided to then start making their own speakers. I have their entry level, but I've heard them all, and I can say they are amazing. Especially for the money. I went with the Chorus 705's since I only had room right now for bookshelfs. They'll eventually be the rear channel speakers when I have room.

    http://www.focal.tm.fr/

    Another good choice I would recommend is Vienna Acoustics, but you can get a better deal but same sonic performance from JM Lab.

    I realize you have Bose, and you got flamed for it, and most high end audio guys will give you grief for them. I won't give you grief, but I'll explain quickly why hi-fi guys don't like Bose, Bose plays loud, they're bright, and they're boomy. So people buy them for home theater, but if you're looking for listening to just music in a stereo arrangement, I do not recommend Bose at all. I used to sell B&W and other high end audio equipment, and I would see other people buy Bose and then come back to me and say it sounds nothing like we had to offer.

    Now if you're looking at hi-fi equipment, and not the speakers. I recommend Integra (high end division of Onkyo), Rotel, MacIntosh, or Mark Levinson.

    Subwoofers - I always liked Velodyne personally.

    Interconnects - I use StraightWire. Don't go the Monster route, Noel Lee is a master at marketing. StraightWire makes the wire by hand, and they also make and do the wiring for major studios and for other high-end audio companies.

    http://straightwire.com/

    Hope that helps. I recommend you bring some CD's that you're very familiar with, and spend about a minute or two listening to them by yourself in the room of a true high end shop. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT have the sales person switch back and forth between speakers while you listen. You will always pick out the worst speaker, and the reason is because it's bright and/or boomy and it sticks out in your head. You'll then take them home, and you'll be disappointed. I used to work for a high-end audio store, and used to design whole house audio/video for clients. You have to listen, and pick what you like. It took me close to 1.5 years to find the speakers I wanted after a lot of listening. If you're looking for control systems I recommend Crestron, and Lutron for lighting.

    I personally use run the following (not much, but room and budget was and still limited):

    JM Lab Chorus 705
    Onkyo TX-DS484 Home Theater Receiver
    Onkyo DV-CP702 6 Disc DVD Player
    iPod Dock
    AudioQuest Mini-Plug Mini Series 3 from iPod Dock to Onkyo
    StraightWire Maestro II
    For Video StraightWire Component Video Silver Link II
     
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  25. Tucom macrumors 65816

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    Actually, that phrase is pretty much a total contradiction to Bose products. The lows, and the highs especially, are Bose's strong points, but are light on the mid-range.

    There are some very quality prodcuts from Bose. The MusicMonitor and Companion series to name a few. Their Acoustimass and Lifestyle systems are nice as well, though some models are overpriced, but you're getting a solid, quality product from a company that has some of the best customer care and support.


    Peace
     

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