High Sierra vs Sierra perfomance ?

andreyush

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How is High Sierra compared to Sierra in performance?
I have a rMBP (8gb RAM) and a MBA (4GB RAM) both from 2012...And with all bugs and updates I am afraid to update. It's High Sierra worth to upgrade? Is the performance better?
 

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I'm running High Sierra on 2011 MBA (4GB) and 2013 MBP (16GB) with no issues at all
Can't say I noticed an increase or a decrease in performance from Sierra
 
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Stick to Sierra unless you are prepared for some problems would be my opinion with these older machines especially the MBA.
I can't answer about an MBA, but so far High Sierra has been stellar on my iMac.
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How is High Sierra compared to Sierra in performance?
I think since HS is based on Sierra, you'll not see too much difference, at least I haven't noticed much
 
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High Sierra seems to have a VRAM leak with at least some NVIDIA cards. There have been several reports of rMBPs becoming unstable when using the 650M and 750M for long periods. I just rebuilt a 2012 rMBP with a 650M and noticed significantly higher VRAM usage in High Sierra than Sierra when attaching an external display. I didn't have any stability issues in my testing, but decided to downgrade back to Sierra before handing the computer on.
 

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I think since HS is based on Sierra, you'll not see too much difference, at least I haven't noticed much
We have had terrible performance at start-up from back-ups and clones making testing the beta a complete pain and several problems with bespoke software in released software which is consistently only seen in 10.13, but has never been seen in in 10.12. The OS is similar, but definitely not the same.
 

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We have had terrible performance at start-up
Yes, I'll give you that. My boot up is significantly slower, I rarely reboot my iMac, so its something that doesn't come to mind.

As for backups, I have my backups scheduled to run off hours, as they are slow anyways due to using a NAS (which runs over ethernet)
 

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Yes, I'll give you that. My boot up is significantly slower, I rarely reboot my iMac, so its something that doesn't come to mind.

As for backups, I have my backups scheduled to run off hours, as they are slow anyways due to using a NAS (which runs over ethernet)
Boot times do seem to be a little slower, but like you, I rarely reboot so it isn't something that concerns me
I haven't noticed any performance lag in my backups (Time Machine and CCC)
 

andreyush

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Soooo. xD I will stick with Sierra on my MBA for sure... Maybe will be the last OS for it.

And also I will hold Sierra on my rMBP aswell.
When Sierra was released it wasn't so bad.
 

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there's just not one answer for these kind of questions; one person's having a great time on HS, another isn't. but eventually, most of us move forward.

i've had a couple of kernel panics in HS (on the betas, to be fair), and some odd behaviors with Messages; but overall, my mac boots fast, wakes faster-than-ever, runs well.
 

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High Sierra seems to run fine to fine for me (on a test drive) - no perfomrance issues - boots alittle slower - not sure why.

My main issue before changing for my working macs is I will have to give up /upgrade / purchase new versions of some of the software I am using, ie pages (v4.3), office, filemaker, omnigraffle and several others etc.

I have tried office and it does work - but am worrried it may not with a future update (32bit obsolete?)

Also the new file system compatibility with older drives I have have is a concern because of the new file system.

Over all I don't see any worthwhile new features or "benifits to switching" and some significant risks and costs to upgrading.
 
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High Sierra seems to have a VRAM leak with at least some NVIDIA cards. There have been several reports of rMBPs becoming unstable when using the 650M and 750M for long periods. I just rebuilt a 2012 rMBP with a 650M and noticed significantly higher VRAM usage in High Sierra than Sierra when attaching an external display. I didn't have any stability issues in my testing, but decided to downgrade back to Sierra before handing the computer on.
I can second this. High Sierra is almost unusable on my 2013 MacBook Pro with 750m. Plus, Cuda is a mess. I'm back on Sierra for now and might skip high Sierra this year. This release is optimized for amd or intel vid cards IMO
 
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I can second this. High Sierra is almost unusable on my 2013 MacBook Pro with 750m. Plus, Cuda is a mess. I'm back on Sierra for now and might skip high Sierra this year. This release is optimized for amd or intel vid cards IMO
Totally disagree with you , High Sierra 10.13.3 run perfectly fine without any hiccups on my 13" Retina late 2013 MacBook Pro with 8gb, 256gb SDD, Intel Iris.
 

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I've just upgraded a 2010 entry-level Mac mini to High Sierra – no major problems. I have no idea whether it benefits from modern hardware-focused improvements like the window server being rewritten in Metal 2, that sort of thing.

I've been using it with the latest version of Logic Pro X, and it gets by.
 

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I've having headaches with Photoshop staying in the Open With list. It being randomly dropped and tying my images to Preview.app got me to downgrade one Mid 2012 MBP back to Sierra where the problem doesn't exist. Photoshop CC 2018 is showing more of the spinning beachball in HS than Sierra. I'll keep one MBP on HS and see if there is improvement. If not, it's Sierra bound. Oh yeah, next time I make a bootable SSD with the older system before upgrading.
 
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I wonder what the point is to update any OS if the new OS is actually slower in a lot of cases. My own issue is iMovie. I recently upgraded to High Sierra (10.3.3) and when I try to open iMovie, it crashes immediately.

What a joke. I want to use Apple's own software (iMovie) with its supposedly latest and the greatest version of its OS, which is, for all intents and purposes, incompatible, and this after a full three point releases post the initial product release. Do I really have to go back to 10.12.6??? :( :( :(
 

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How is High Sierra compared to Sierra in performance?
I have a rMBP (8gb RAM) and a MBA (4GB RAM) both from 2012...And with all bugs and updates I am afraid to update. It's High Sierra worth to upgrade? Is the performance better?
I wish I stuck to Sierra. I don't see an increase in performance for High Sierra and my drive is an SSD.

Instead, I'm experiencing a much longer start time, bugs which Apple for the most part has corrected, and programs that will not run under High Sierra.
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Over all I don't see any worthwhile new features or "benifits to switching" and some significant risks and costs to upgrading.
This is the best reason not to upgrade.
 
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I wish I stuck to Sierra. I don't see an increase in performance for High Sierra and my drive is an SSD.

Instead, I'm experiencing a much longer start time, bugs which Apple for the most part has corrected, and programs that will not run under High Sierra.
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This is the best reason not to upgrade.
I guess that's it. I'm going to downgrade to 10.12.6. Just like I'm SO glad I stuck with iOS 10.

How absolutely and thoroughly pathetic of Apple to come up with this much dog crap for OS software. The latest bug for both High Sierra 10.3.3 and iOS 11.2.5 is that your system will crash if you send an Indian character. hahaha...

As for video editing software, apparently Apple's iMovie has turned to total crap as well. Read the latest reviews for iMovie 10.1.8 and you'll see what I mean.

And what did I read, Apple is set to focus on "quality" and under-the-hood improvements for macOS 10.14 and iOS 12? HAHAHA...High Sierra was supposed to be that "feature-less under-the-hood" release. Must be all of that Fukushima radiation frying heads in Cupertino.
 

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I wish I stuck to Sierra. I don't see an increase in performance for High Sierra and my drive is an SSD.

Instead, I'm experiencing a much longer start time, bugs which Apple for the most part has corrected, and programs that will not run under High Sierra.
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This is the best reason not to upgrade.
high sierra (outside of the messages app problems) is running better for me than sierra; faster, stable. and, since it's current, we're seeing beta updates, which lead to... actual point updates. breathe, people, it will be ok.... :D
 

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high sierra (outside of the messages app problems) is running better for me than sierra; faster, stable. and, since it's current, we're seeing beta updates, which lead to... actual point updates. breathe, people, it will be ok.... :D
I'm sure you will get different answers from different people (mostly dependent on their hardware) but I can only go by my experiences with High Sierra. For what it's worth, I don't recommend upgrading at this time.
 

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high sierra (outside of the messages app problems) is running better for me than sierra; faster, stable. and, since it's current, we're seeing beta updates, which lead to... actual point updates. breathe, people, it will be ok.... :D
I used to install every beta pre even the initial .0 release for 10.7 until 10.11, but these days, the point updates break more than they fix.

I'm with @Plutonius: I don't recommend "up"grading to High Sierra either.
 
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high sierra performs better and its no brainer to prefer it.. metal api 2.0 fixed many ui problems on macbook pro models
if you want stability i would go back pre tim cook era since its not possible then its el capitan i cant recommend sierra... has memory leak issues and ui lags...
 
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