Hitachi 7K200

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by prome05, Jun 29, 2007.

  1. prome05 macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2006
    #1
    Has anyone ordered or installed one of the new Hitachi 7K200 drives?
     
  2. EspressoLove macrumors 6502

    EspressoLove

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2007
    Location:
    Bay Area
    #2
    I'll wait on it till Leopard's coming

    Or probably would go with Samsung's 250gig drive
    (for soon to be mine 2,2ghz SR MBP)
     
  3. Alloye macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2007
    Location:
    Rocklin, CA
    #3
    I'm just about to order one. I'll probably install it next weekend and post how it goes.
     
  4. whateverandever macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2006
    Location:
    Baltimore
    #4
    Why would you choose the Samsung 250GB over the higher-performance cheaper Western Digital 250GB drive?


    I feel the need to pick up a 200GB 7200rpm drive now. It seems to outperform my Seagate 160GB 7200.2 drive by quite a bit :( I feel so outdated.
     
  5. basicfiend macrumors member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2007
    #5

    Really? Where did you see this comparison? The only comparisons that I've seen show Hitachi drives as having slightly worse characteristics than Seagate.
     
  6. whateverandever macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2006
    Location:
    Baltimore
    #6
    The 7k100 series drive was slower than the seagate. The newer drives beat the Seagate series. There are some benchmarks up but Im too lazy to look them up on my iPhone :p
     
  7. prome05 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2006
    #7
  8. toddbee macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2007
    #8
    i just installed on in my macbook pro santa rosa. all i can say it is frickin fast. definitely worth the speed increase and more space too.
     
  9. uicandrew macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2006
    #9
    hi. can you tell us what you had initially (so we know what you're comparing it to?)

    and how much data do you have on the drive? the barefeats testing shows that the speed advantage goes down for the 7200rpm drives as the drives fill up.
     
  10. whateverandever macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2006
    Location:
    Baltimore
    #10
    Barefeats and their confusing crap.

    All drives slow down as they fill up. 7200rpm drives > all.
     
  11. Butthead macrumors 6502

    Butthead

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2006
    #11
    Only when you're comparing with larger capacity drives, which have higher density platters. For same size 200GB speed advantage for the 7k200 will still be there against 5.4k drive as they both fill up. Probably so close between a 250GB 5.4k, that it's worth it even if you do fill up the 200GB...lesson learned, don't fill up the drive all the way if you want maximum performance to be maintained by a 7.2k 200GB drive. But that's always been the case, nothing new, except to n00bs ;)

    So if all drives slow down as they fill, why are you still confused with what barefeats says :p ?


    "SHOOTOUT:
    Hitachi 7K200 and Seagate 7200.2 7200rpm Notebook Drives
    versus others"
    http://www.barefeats.com/rosa05.html
     
  12. RaceTripper macrumors 68030

    Joined:
    May 29, 2007
    #12
    Will be installing one next weekend most likely. Ordered it today. Will likely order a triple interface enclosure for the old drive from OWC.
     
  13. TheScavenger macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2007
    Location:
    Kansas City, MO
    #13
  14. mkgm1 macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2007
    #14
    Erm I just got off the phone with someone from Apple UK (I wanted to ask how much it would be to get the drive professionally fitted in an Apple store), and the guy claimed that the reason Apple don't offer a 200 GB 7200 RPM drive is that the MBP would end up running much hotter. That doesn't really make sense to me though, because a few people here who have installed it have said that their machines now run cooler.

    He also said changing it yourself would 'probably' end up voiding the warranty...although I very much doubt this. I'm going to phone tech support now, and see what they say..

    Edit: Tech support say that I can't get my HD professionally replaced in an Apple Store with one I've purchased myself. They also said I definitely would void my warranty if I did it myself...what a load of crap!
     
  15. RaceTripper macrumors 68030

    Joined:
    May 29, 2007
    #15
    Warranty policies and legal rights may vary between the UK and US, so what you were told may not apply to many of us anyway.

    Given that, I'll be keeping my original drive. If I have to leave my MBP for service, I'll erase the original and put it back in again.
     
  16. WorldIRC macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2005
    #16
    I just installed my 7k200 a couple days ago. I'm not sure if its faster then my 160gb 7200.2 but it offers the extra space I need and is not hotter or appear to consume any extra battery life! So far so happy!
     
  17. JFreak macrumors 68040

    JFreak

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2003
    Location:
    Tampere, Finland
    #17
    Have you people still not learnt to *PARTITION* the drive wisely? As we all know, disk is round and not all rounds are made equal. The ones closer to the disk center are very much slower than the rounds closer to the disk edge. This realisation should lead to a practical invention of "let's put all the most necessary stuff to the faster part of the drive" type of behavior, IOW partitioning the disk to at least two individual entities.

    Let's say you have 50-50 partitioning scheme and two partitions called "System" and "Storage". The system drive (the first partition) has the faster part of the drive thus making the whole system snappier. Then you store all your music and photo libraries to the storage drive (the last partition) which is still more than fast enough to sustain the required transfer rate.

    Now as the time goes on, everything you do for the system drive still has to happen at the faster part of the drive and no matter how much the drive fragments you still have everything on the faster part of the drive (thus making the system snappier). But whenever you need to access your music/photos you still don't feel any slowdown even though the libraries happen to be stored to the slowest part of the hard drive.

    It's always a good option to think for a while ;)
     
  18. RaceTripper macrumors 68030

    Joined:
    May 29, 2007
    #18
    What do you suggest? I've only been using OS X for a couple months now. Does the Mac OS installer let you specify mount points for partitions, or do I have to get down to the unix layer to sort that out. I haven't done that in a while. And If I partition for different mount points, what's a good size to use for the system on a 200 GB drive? Should I also create a separate partition for swap? How big does that need to be for OS X?
     
  19. bplein macrumors 6502

    bplein

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2007
    Location:
    Austin, TX USA
    #19
    I just bought one of these (an interesting story unto itself).

    Over on HardForums I saw a thread saying that a Hitachi USB external drive, Model H2200U, used the 7K200 drive instead of the advertised 5400rpm drive. A bunch of people bought them, and found that if the serial number on the box started with DTG, then it was the 7200rpm drive.

    The price a few weeks ago was $139.99 for this external drive, last night I hopped on and bought it (picked up in store) for $149.99, and today they are $169.99.

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8355709&type=product&id=1177112455216

    I dropped it on as a USB drive, and it was the 7K200. So I used SuperDuper to back up the hard drive, and today I swapped it into my MBP SR 15.4. It's a fantastic drive, very quiet. Haven't benchmarked it yet.

    Go to hardforum and search on 7K200, the thread is one of the top thread hits for that (Hitachi 7200 200GB Notebook drive plus case....)

    I used a 10% off coupon, so with tax it was still under $150, a GREAT deal as long as you are willing to be patient and cautious with the hard drive swap if it's for an MBP.

    Since you need to look at the serial number, I suggest that you do not buy online, but rather go into the store and get one with the right serial.
     
  20. whateverandever macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2006
    Location:
    Baltimore
    #20
    Thanks for the heads up on the cheap drive, bplein! I've been wanting one but they're just too expensive as OEM right now.
     

Share This Page