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Hitachi Announces HD Storage Boost

GodBless said:
20 GB iVideo with 802.11g along with Tiger and Hardware updates on Tuesday? The iVideo sounds like a good response to the PSP.
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Jobs has commented on this before... and the ivideo just doesn't make a lot of sense. Apple isn't a gaming company (err... isn't anymore), the psp is a gaming platform and the whole "movie/music" notion is poorly done by sony with these mini dvds.


I don't like it. I don't think it'll fly.

These HD's are promising, and sure I'd love to see the 500GB drives soon... and 1TB drives in a year, but we all KNEW it was going to happen anyways... so it's not really breaking news.
 
Diatribe said:
The thing I really want is a 300GB notebook HD and a 150GB iPod.
Because then I could go Lossless only. That would be nice.
I guess with this announcement these two are not far away. 2 years max. Niiiiiiice :D
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I agree, I am much more interested in what this means for regular sized drives. A few hundred gigs in a PB would be amazing!
 
cb911 said:
i guess this is good news because now we can just sit back and watch all the 20GB iPod Mini mockups come through while we all fantasize and drool over our own visions of a 20GB Mini. :D :p
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There's nothing to think about, really. Take the current iPod mini, put a color screen and that new "charges at 80% in 1 minute" Li-Ion battery in it. Voilà, the new 20GB iPod mini.

The day that iPod mini becomes available is the day I'm selling my 3rd gen. 10GB iPod.

I do wish the click-wheel would become a touch-wheel. No buttons, just detect pressure and simulate a button... Like the 3rd gen iPods, but directly on the wheel like the 4th gen iPods. Not sure if that would work as well as touch buttons, though.
 
Yvan256 said:
Take the current iPod mini, put a color screen and that new "charges at 80% in 1 minute" Li-Ion battery in it. Voilà, the new 20GB iPod mini.

The day that iPod mini becomes available is the day I'm selling my 3rd gen. 10GB iPod.
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See you in 2010-12. ;-)
 
Porchland said:
I think we're going to start seeing more camcorders with built-in drives. There are a few on the market right now, but a camcorder that can record an hour of 640x480 SD footage without a tape would move a lot of people over from DV.

Someone out there who does video tell me: How big a harddrive would a camcorder need to record an hour of SD? HD?
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First of all, what's SD?

Second: is there any MPEG-4, HD-based camcorder out there?
 
What I want to know is how fast these high Capacity 2.5cm drives can handle data? What will the spindle speeds for such a drive be? Tranfer rates, seek time, etc.
 
srobert said:
I wonder what Apple will do to make the Mini's bigger brother more appealing when you'll be able to fit your whole music library on a color screen mini. :confused:
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The way I see it, the iPod is now too big and will probably dissapear in a few years (2 or 3 at most). If you can have a 20GB iPod mini with color screen (that's four times the capacity of the original iPod), you don't need the "regular" iPod anymore.
 
1 TB iPod (colour screen, bluetooth, babysitter) by 2006.5

Neat.

Wait, I just woke up...
 
Macrumors said:
The technology, of course, will also bring increased capacity desktop drives which could max out at one terabyte.
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Wow, just think of all the stuff you'll lose when the hard drive dies....

--Eric
 
looks like a promising future for the iPod family, as well as laptop drives


im still debating if i will ever need anything more than my shuffle though, sure i have a pretty big collection, but do i NEED to have it everywhere with me? no, not at this point, but it would be nice
 
Rod Rod said:
One hour of uncompressed SD is around 60-90GB (depending on a couple of factors such as bit depth)
One hour of DV is about 13GB.
One hour of HDV 1080i is about 13GB.
One hour of HDV 720p is about 8 or 9GB.
One hour of H.264 HD would be somewhere around 2-4GB (H.264 camcorders are not that far away).
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So, sounds like to me, first generation hard drive camcorders will probably be 20 GB, moving quickly to 40 GB, marketed as 2-hour and 4-hour SD camcorders. Speeding up transfer times shoud be the next item on the agenda.

With the first pro-sumer camcorders coming onto the market just now at about $3,500, we're probably 3-5 years away from a consumer HD camcorder under $1,500. Is HD/HD (High-def, hard drive-based) that fits in the palm of your hand the new camcorder Holy Grail?
 
swissmann said:
20 GB sounds like a nice improvement to what I consider to be an undersized mini now. 5 GB just isn't enough in my book.
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Not to nitpick but it's 4 and 6GB, not 5GB.

And according to this poll a 6GB iPod mini is enough for 40% of users.

And if "20GB sounds like a nice improvement" to you, keep in mind that almost 75% of iPod owners (according to the poll) have less than 12GB of music (if we take the average song as being 4MB). And you can add at least 50% of the next poll range (3001-6000 songs) before you hit the 20GB limit, which means a 20GB iPod mini would be more than enough for at least 80% of users.

Add a nice color screen, and every 5GB, 10GB, 15GB and 20GB iPod owners will switch to this new iPod mini. It also means they'll sell their old iPods to someone else, which makes more potential switchers to the Mac platform.
 
Yvan256 said:
The way I see it, the iPod is now too big and will probably dissapear in a few years (2 or 3 at most). If you can have a 20GB iPod mini with color screen (that's four times the capacity of the original iPod), you don't need the "regular" iPod anymore.
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I don't have any idea how Apple will market iPod/mini down the road, but it certainly seems like the iPod will trend smaller. Unless there's some kind of radical change in the form factor, though, an iPod that's any smaller than the mini gets more difficult to control with one hand.
 
Yvan256 said:
Not to nitpick but it's 4 and 6GB, not 5GB.

And according to this poll a 6GB iPod mini is enough for 40% of users.

And if "20GB sounds like a nice improvement" to you, keep in mind that almost 75% of iPod owners (according to the poll) have less than 12GB of music (if we take the average song as being 4MB). And you can add at least 50% of the next poll range (3001-6000 songs) before you hit the 20GB limit, which means a 20GB iPod mini would be more than enough for at least 80% of users.

Add a nice color screen, and every 5GB, 10GB, 15GB and 20GB iPod owners will switch to this new iPod mini. It also means they'll sell their old iPods to someone else, which makes more potential switchers to the Mac platform.
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It doesn't seem to fit the current trend, but larger, better-quality AAC files would make good marketing sense for Apple. Capacity is growing faster than average consumer appetite, and we're already getting to a point where a pretty small percentage of new iPod sales are to consumers that need more capacity.

Of course, video would drive the need for capacity more significantly.
 
Blue Velvet said:
Is that what they're calling themselves now? I thought there was another much shorter word that meant the same thing...

And of course, it's not porn. Any self-repecting connoisseur would call it erotica. :rolleyes:
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Porn and erotica are not the same thing. Erotica is art with a sexual tone to it, while porn is sexual, and need not have any other focus.

One can appreciate something, without judging it by its artistic merit.
 
Porchland said:
It doesn't seem to fit the current trend, but larger, better-quality AAC files would make good marketing sense for Apple. Capacity is growing faster than average consumer appetite, and we're already getting to a point where a pretty small percentage of new iPod sales are to consumers that need more capacity.

Of course, video would drive the need for capacity more significantly.
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If people can market 128kbps MP3 and 64kbps WMA as "CD-Quality", 128kbps AAC is more than fine for most people.

And if Apple does want to push higher-than-128kbps AAC, how will they spin the marketing for the iTMS? All those millions of songs sold at 128kbps? Will they offer a higher-bitrate upgrade for a low cost? Will they offer you a refund in the form of credits if the new high-bitrate songs still cost 99 cents?

I do agree with you though, video is what will push the need for bigger drives. We just have to wait for H.264 until we can even begin to think about a video iPod...

I do have to say, being able to put music videos and movie trailers on a "MoviePod" would be nice.
 
I don't know. The article states 20GB capacities in 5-7 years out but I think crystalline holographic storage arrays will make a debut within that time. And I'm venturing to guess over 10TB storage in a 1" cubic enclosure. Or what about bio-molecular storage systems being developed, or photon entrapment?
 
This is all too much for me. I need to find another hobby. All this new technology costs money! :( I wish it grew on trees!

Soon we'll have 1TB laptops and whatever. I heard someone talking about a Yodabyte the other day!, A Yodabyte!? 2 to the 80th power bytes!!!

(Yodabyte = 1024 Zettabytes
Zettabyte = 1024 Exabytes
Exabyte = 1024 Petabytes
Petabyte = 1024 Terabytes
Terabyte = 1024 Gigabytes
Gigabyte = 1024 Megabytes
Megabyte = 1024 Kilobytes
Kilobyte = 1024 Bytes)

Madness!!!
 
GodBless said:
20 GB iVideo with 802.11g along with Tiger and Hardware updates on Tuesday? The iVideo sounds like a good response to the PSP.
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hah! i severely doubt Apple have any fears that the PSP is going to affect them. portable video's a no-go. Gordon Laing say's so :p and its true.

20Gb iPod mini with a 10 minute full battery charge. but imagine how big the regular 'pods will be in 2007 :eek: while a 20gb mini would be good now in 2 years, compared to how big other computer/ipod hard drives will be it probably won't be that good. but only in comparison.

i had a 3G 15Gb iPod, now a 6Gb mini. as much as i love my mini i'd probably get a full sized pod next time.
 
We'll definitely hit a petabyte of affordable hard drive space within 6-8 years. 1 terabyte is already within reach of most people, and it was only 8 years ago when 1 gigabyte HDs hit the market.
 
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