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Hitachi Breakthrough Could Mean 4TB Disks By 2011
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This is easy. I rip all my DVDs to my Mac Pro, for use with Apple TV. My iTunes library is about 4 TB right now. I could probably fill 8 TB worth of space with everything. People will fill whatever space is available, within reason.
Forget about more capacity... I want faster drives and faster machines. If that 1TB drive spins at 5400 or 4200 rpm than what is it good for? By the time that drives intros it better be spinning at 7200 rpm, and that should be the slower model. I want to see 10,000 rpm and 15,000 rpm SAS laptop drives that can make my computer scream. And I want a new type of battery that can power two of those fast drives and my quad core Intel Core 3 Duo Baltimore chip that runs inside of my 17" Mac Book Pro Extreme with SLI ver. 3
I don't want current technology that's larger or has more space, I want better new technology that takes us to the next step of computing.
I don't want current technology that's larger or has more space, I want better new technology that takes us to the next step of computing.
Sure, you'll get a 1TB or 4TB capacity, but actual space will be like 968GB for the 1TB and 3.5TB for the 4TB disk.
Lame.
Lame.
Umm... the library of congress is 20TB... 4TB is the size of their DUI files and criminal records... oh, and how many times they have all been denied for a $2000 credit card...
Your encyclopedia galactica has got to be at least 1EB... but thats only theoretical... we'll never really need that much space...
It was compressed
you can use mine
Nah...I like using real sources for information.
Based on previous hard drive capacity introductions, we should be at 2tb next year at this time and 4tb in 2009.
For a given fixed density, what are the ratios of maximum capacity for the different hard disk form factors?
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3.5-inch
2.5-inch
1.8-inch
1.0-inch
0.85-inch
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Something like this?
0.85-inch --x2--> 1-inch --x8--> 1.8-inch --x4--> 2.5-inch --x4--> 3.5-inch
Any web site data out there about that? Thanks.
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3.5-inch
2.5-inch
1.8-inch
1.0-inch
0.85-inch
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Something like this?
0.85-inch --x2--> 1-inch --x8--> 1.8-inch --x4--> 2.5-inch --x4--> 3.5-inch
Any web site data out there about that? Thanks.
Technology just keeps progressing, it's fun!
I remember when a 400 MB HDD was huge - what would you need that much space for?
I think I'll just hold out for a 1 zettabyte hard drive...
Reading your reply gave me something of an ‘aha’ experience. ‘T was somewhere in 1993 or so, and I was very proud of my 40 MB harddrive. I even ‘doubled’ the capacity with a program called Stacker. Perhaps the really old among you still remember. The fact that I do says enough.
Anyhoo, a friend of mine, also a PC owner, called me on the phone one evening and was very exited. “I have the chance to buy a 400 MB harddrive” he yelled in my ear. “400!!!!”. I think it was 1100 guilders back then, a king’s ransom. That capacity was mind boggling then, there was no content to fill it with.
A few years later I was able to scrape enough money together to buy a 120 MB Kalok harddrive in another city. It lasted one week, after which it stopped working because of the dreaded ‘click of death’. Its replacement lasted for a month and I received my money back.
And now what can we do with 400 MB?
No you won't, you'll get 1E40 (1 trillion) bytes for the "1TB", and 4E40 bytes for the "4TB". The capacity of the drive is always the same, formatted or not. It's the fine print that confuses most consumers.
The "1TB" drive will be 909.495 GB, and the "4TB" drive will be 3.63798 GB. Lame indeed, but we ALL accept it (or are ignorant to it) when we buy hard drives, this is nothing new.
Filling 4TB
Very easy. I've currently Handbroken about 200 movies to Apple TV resolution and already filled up my 500GB HDD. And I still have 800 movies. And this doesn't include the HD pr0n either!
Very easy. I've currently Handbroken about 200 movies to Apple TV resolution and already filled up my 500GB HDD. And I still have 800 movies. And this doesn't include the HD pr0n either!
All kidding aside...how many different "main" manufactures of hard drives are out there? There seems to be several dozen, but they are probably using someone else's technology. Anyone know this?
All in all, this isn't really surprizing. In fact, it's a little but behind schedule. We had 1TB drives June of '07, so there are approximately 4 years between 1TB drives and 4TB drives. That's more than two iterations of Moore's Law, hence, at least 4TB.
*yawn*
Different formatting techniques lock up different amounts of space, but a 4TB drive formatted will still be about 3.7TB of space. Big whoop.
-Clive
*yawn*
Different formatting techniques lock up different amounts of space, but a 4TB drive formatted will still be about 3.7TB of space. Big whoop.
-Clive
1TB in a laptop
While increasing 4 fold in 4 years is what everyone should be expecting. What's big in this news is that a mechanical device is achieving these feats when we are talking about nanometer sizes.
It ha been a big worry for the HDD makers that Flash and other electronics storage media would eventually catch up to mechanical devices and make them obsolete. With this breakthrough they can still maintain a good storage/price lead on Flash for the foreseeable future.
While flash only laptops are tempting, a nice 1 TB laptop would be awfully hard to resist.
While increasing 4 fold in 4 years is what everyone should be expecting. What's big in this news is that a mechanical device is achieving these feats when we are talking about nanometer sizes.
It ha been a big worry for the HDD makers that Flash and other electronics storage media would eventually catch up to mechanical devices and make them obsolete. With this breakthrough they can still maintain a good storage/price lead on Flash for the foreseeable future.
While flash only laptops are tempting, a nice 1 TB laptop would be awfully hard to resist.
My point is, haven't we advanced in technology to get rid of that, all that extra crap and is stored on our hard drives?
Once SSD is cheaper, you'll be able to load an OS and them some onto it. In the meantime, small, reliable HDDs will have time to gain credibility. This being the case, I see no reason not to have one of each. 16GB SSD for OS and high-priority software, ~500GB 1.8" HDD for storage. Hopefully they'll improve on those little guys so they don't fail so much. Then again, simply not using them for an OS will give them a much longer lifetime.
-Clive
Depending on how many platters it is, you can just use the formula of finding the area of a circle (Pi * radius^2) - (Pi * radius of middle section^2). The middle section is where all the platters connect and and turn. That times the * platters * 2 is the surface area of each hard drive. Divide a bigger sized hard drive by a smaller one gets you how much bigger the big one is.
I rated this one a negative. If they put the 1TB hard drive in an iPod, it would still be too small for me. I mean, 1TB, that means that you'd only be able to put 250,000 songs on there! If I listened to every song continuously, I would run out of songs in a measily two years!!!! That's just unacceptable. I'm going to wait until 2014 to buy a 1 petabyte iPod. Then I'll FINALLY be able to carry all 250 million songs that I have and want to listen to. At least then I'll be able to go 20 years of 24/7 listening before I run out of songs.
People who love music have large collections and would like to have them
on their portable player in uncompressed format. I hope a 1TB iPod is
produced, before it is too small to hold all my music. If you want to
have the small number of tunes you like compressed down to a state
where you can barely hear them, buy a shuffle.
This is the first step to HD content in the iTS. By 2010 bandwidth and space will be enough for Apple to offer HD, before I kind of doubt it. Anyway, cool beans.
When my notebook can hold all my songs in Lossless that will be the day that I celebrate. Until then I'll live with my measly 200GB.
When my notebook can hold all my songs in Lossless that will be the day that I celebrate. Until then I'll live with my measly 200GB.