Hold function

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by caseybb4, Mar 3, 2007.

  1. caseybb4 macrumors newbie

    Mar 3, 2007
    Hey All,

    I was looking at a picture of the iPhone and noticed it has a mute and hold button. Do you think you can play music on hold from your itunes library? What are your thoughts?


  2. iMeowbot macrumors G3


    Aug 30, 2003
    I doubt that it will be allowed. On-hold music has licensing strings attached, that wouldn't be very compatible with non-subscription music.
  3. caseybb4 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Mar 3, 2007
    It only has licensing issues if you play copy-righted music. So, obviously you couldn't play anything with DRM. If you doubt there will be music on hold, which you are probably right, then what do you suspect would be the difference between hold and mute.
  4. iMeowbot macrumors G3


    Aug 30, 2003
    Or any commercial music without DRM, which is still protected by the very same copyrights. It would be really, really tough for Apple to negotiate such a thing.
    Music on hold would be transmitted over the "wire". The iPhone mute thing just cuts out the local iPod audio.
  5. caseybb4 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Mar 3, 2007
    I understand that music without DRM can still be copyrighted but my point is, baring any patent infringement, apple wouldn't need to permission from the 4 major labels to play non copyrighted music on hold. If the user selects a DMR-free song that is copyrighted then that is not Apples violation. An iPod can play pirated music, however, it's infringement of the end user. Music on hold is the only reason I can think of to have both a mute and hold button. Also, do you think the record labels would be opposed to the idea? It is non-commercial promotion of their music. You can buy a ringtone...maybe you can buy a hold song.

    Obviously, but why hold and mute? What do you suspect is the function of the hold button?
  6. iMeowbot macrumors G3


    Aug 30, 2003
    For playing music across a phone call when you put someone on hold, there most certainly are license fees, because it's a public performance.

    It would technically be the phone users' violation if they aren't cutting checks to the royalty collection agencies, but Apple would be under pressure from content owners not to make the feature available without some kind of assurance that those fees would be paid.

    A much simpler reason to have a hold button would be to put people on hold :D This goes hand in hand with the conference call feature.
    This is more the domain of music publishers. They are often, but not always, the same people.
    It really doesn't work that way.
    It's possible that something like this could be done, but Apple would be forced to restrict it to specially licensed tracks.
  7. TheAnswer macrumors 68030


    Jan 25, 2002
    Orange County, CA
    Hold is useful for putting someone on hold...keeping the connection while you answer another call or connect another party for a conference call and discussing briefly with them before you bring in the party on hold. Since mute just shuts off your microphone, but lets them blather on...hold is also useful for putting someone in "time out" so you don't have to listen to them without hanging up on them.
  8. buymeaniphone macrumors 6502


    Feb 8, 2007
    San Antonio, Texas
    You would use the hold to make another call and perhaps have a 3 way conference call. You would use mute so the other person on the phone doesn't have to hear you scream at your dog for pooping on the floor again. :)
  9. chatster18 macrumors regular

    Jan 14, 2007
    I agree! But the music feature would be nice!!:D

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